Behold a Pale Horse-Part Three: The 144,000 of the Twelve Tribes of Israel and the Antichrist

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posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 03:51 AM
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Behold a Pale Horse-Part One

Behold a Pale Horse-Part Two: The Unholy Grail

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Historical evidence seems to indicate that Jesus Christ was Ceasaron, also known as Esau (Egyptian name for Jesus, meaning son of Isis ) The last Pharoah of Egypt, Ptolemy XV. The child of Julius Caesar and Cleopatra (the self proclaimed Virgin Goddess Isis) The founder of the Holy Roman Empire and the biggest lie ever told.

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4? BCE-33 CE
Jesus founds Christianity


Notice that there is a question mark after the four, as to not blatantly give away the actual birth year of Jesus Christ.

However, since I am already aware of Jesus Christ's identity I can simply look for the actual date on Wikipedia, So now we know that Jesus lived from 47 BC- 33AD
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Caesarion

Numbering the Ptolemies is a modern invention; the Greeks distinguished them by nickname. The number given here is the present consensus; but there has been some disagreement about which Ptolemies should be counted as reigning. Older sources may give a number one higher or lower, but the same epithet.
Ptolemy XV Philopator Philometor Caesar, nicknamed Caesarion (little Caesar) Greek: Πτολεμαῖος ΙΕʹ Φιλοπάτωρ Φιλομήτωρ Καῖσαρ, Καισαρίων, Ptolemaĩos Philopátōr Philomḗtōr Kaĩsar, Kaisaríōn (June 23, 47 BC–August, 30 BC) was the last king of the Ptolemaic dynasty of Egypt, who reigned, as a child, jointly with his mother Cleopatra VII of Egypt from September 2 44 BC to August, 30 BC, when he was killed on orders of Octavian, who would become the Roman emperor Augustus.
The eldest son of Cleopatra VII, and the only known son of Julius Caesar, for whom he was named.

Life
Ptolemy XV, sometimes referred to as "Ptolemy Caesar", most commonly known by his nickname Caesarion, was born in Egypt in 47 BC and spent two of his early years, from 46-44 BC, in Rome, where he and his mother were Caesar's guests. Cleopatra VII hoped that her son would eventually succeed his father as the head of the Roman Republic as well as Egypt. After Caesar's assassination on March 15, 44 BC, Cleopatra and Caesarion returned to Egypt. Caesarion was named co-ruler by his mother on September 2 44 BC at the age of three, although he was King in name only, with Cleopatra VII keeping actual authority to herself.
During the tense period of time leading up to the final showdown between Mark Antony and Octavian (future Emperor Augustus), Antony, who at that time shared control of the Republic in a triumvirate with Octavian and Lepidus, granted various eastern lands and titles to Caesarion and to his own three children with Cleopatra (in 34 BC). Caesarion was proclaimed "King of Kings." Most threatening to Octavian (whose claim to power was based on his status as Julius Caesar's grand-nephew and adopted son), Antony declared Caesarion to be Caesar's true son and heir. These proclamations, known as the Donations of Alexandria, caused a fatal breach in Antony's relations with Octavian, who used Roman resentment over the Donations to gain support for war against Antony and Cleopatra.
When Octavian invaded Egypt in 30 BC, Cleopatra VII sent Caesarion, then seventeen years old, to the Red Sea port of Berenice for safety, with possible plans of an escape to India. Octavian captured the city of Alexandria on August 1, 30 BC, the date that marks the official annexation of Egypt to the Roman Republic. Mark Antony had committed suicide prior to Octavian's entry into the capital; Cleopatra followed his example by committing suicide on August 12, 30 BC. Caesarion's guardians, including his tutor, either were themselves lured by false promises of mercy into returning the boy to Alexandria or perhaps even betrayed him; the records are unclear. Octavian had Caesarion executed there, with the words "Two Caesars is one too many". No events concerning his death have been documented, but due to his young age it is supposed he was executed by strangulation.
Octavian then assumed absolute control of Egypt. The year 30 BC was considered the first year of the new ruler's reign according to the traditional chronological system of Egypt. In lists of the time Octavian himself appears as a Pharaoh and the successor to Caesarion.


Notice in the quote taken from Wikipedia above that Caesarion was proclaimed King of Kings. Also notice that the wikipedia entry states that he had plans to escape to India, this is where he studied vedic texts. His caretakers were now Mary and Joseph. After some time in India, Jesus returned to Alexandria, Egypt and married his half sister, the daughter one fo three children born from Marc Antony and Cleopatra and founded "The Holy Roman Empire".

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posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 03:54 AM
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So if this were true, that would mean that the twelve tribes are of the twelve disciples, the ones who jesus taught, and wouldn't you know, they are listed here.

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Argeads, Antigonids, Lagids (Ptolemies), Seleucids, Lysimachids, Antipatrids, Attalids, Greco-Bactrians, Indo-Greeks, Rulers of Bithynia, Kings of Pontus and Kings of Cappadocia

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Well would you imagine that. I have identified the twelve tribes by simply doing some research and they are right there in Wikipedia for everyone to see.

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So who were the lost tribes of Israel? Lets take a further look shall we?
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Israelites
According to the Bible, the Israelites were the dominant group living in the Land of Israel from the time of the conquest of the territory by Joshua until they were conquered by the Babylonians in c.586 BCE and taken into exile. They were divided in twelve tribes, each claiming descent from one of twelve sons and grandsons of Jacob.
The term Israelite derives from Israel (Hebrew: ישראל (Standard Yisraʾel Tiberian Yiśrāʾēl)), the name given to the biblical patriarch Jacob after he struggled with God and man and prevailed( Genesis 32:28-29). His descendants are called the House of Jacob, the Children of Israel, the People of Israel, or the Israelites.
The Hebrew Bible is mainly concerned with the Israelites. According to it, the Land of Israel was promised to them by God. Jerusalem was their capital and the site of the temple at the center of their faith.
The Israelites became a major political power with the United Monarchy of Kings Saul, David and Solomon, from c. 1025 BCE. Zedekiah, king of Judah (597-586 BCE), is considered the last king from the house of David.

The Twelve Tribes

The Israelites were divided along family lines, each called a shevet or mateh in Hebrew meaning literally a "staff" or "rod". The term is conventionally translated as "tribe" in English, although the divisions were not small isolated distinct ethnic groups in the modern sense of the term.
In Egypt the house of Joseph was divided into two tribes, Ephraim and Manasseh, by virtue of Jacob's blessing. (Genesis 48:8-21)
Some English speaking Jewish groups view the pronunciation, English transcription and Hebrew spelling of the tribal names to be extremely important. The transcriptions and spellings are as follows:
▪ Reuben: ראובן, Standard Rəʾuven, Tiberian Rəʾûḇēn
▪ Simeon: שמעון, Standard Šimʿon, Tiberian Šimʿôn
▪ Levi: לוי, Standard Levi, Tiberian Lēwî (which did not share in the apportionment of the Land)
▪ Judah: יהודה, Standard Yəhuda, Tiberian Yəhûḏāh
▪ Dan: דן, Standard Dan, Tiberian Dān
▪ Naphtali: נפתלי, Standard Naftali, Tiberian Nap̄tālî
▪ Gad: גד, Standard Gad, Tiberian Gāḏ
▪ Asher: אשר, Standard Ašer, Tiberian ʾĀšēr
▪ Issachar: יששכר, Standard Yissaḫar, Tiberian Yiśśâḵār
▪ Zebulun: זבולן, Standard Zəvúlun, Tiberian Zəḇûlun
▪ Joseph: יוסף, Standard Yosef, Tiberian Yôsēp̄, containing the tribes:
▪ Manasseh: מנשה, Standard Mənašše, Tiberian Mənaššeh, Samaritan Manatch
▪ Ephraim: אפרים, Standard Efráyim, Tiberian ʾEp̄ráyim / ʾEp̄rāyim, Samaritan Afrime
▪ Benjamin: בנימין, Standard Binyamin, Tiberian Binyāmîn


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Camps following the exodus
Following the Exodus from Egypt, the Israelites were divided into thirteen camps (Hebrew: machanot) according to importance [2] with Levi in the center of the encampment around the Tabernacle and its furnishings surrounded by other tribes arranged in four groups: Judah, Issachar and Zebulun; Reuben, Simeon and Gad; Ephraim, Manasseh and Benjamin; Dan, Asher and Naphtali.[3] Thus additionally Aaron and his descendants although descended from Levi were appointed as priests (kohanim) and came to be considered a separate division to the Levites.

Israelite kingdoms
The Kingdom of Judah consisted of Judah, Simeon, Benjamin, and the parts of Levi within those lands, while the Kingdom of Israel contained Reuben, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Manasseh, Ephraim, and the remainder of Levi.
The Israelites became a major political power with the United Monarchy of Kings Saul, David and Solomon, from c. 1025 BCE.
The Kingdom of Israel was conquered in the 720s BC, by the Assyrians under Shalmaneser V and then under Sargon II, who, after conquering the land, destroyed Samaria, its capital, and, deported most of the occupants into exile, with the southernmost tribe - Benjamin - managing to survive by joining the Kingdom of Judah; Assyrian chronicles of the time report that only a small number of people were deported. Assyrian policy was for the deportees to be scattered, and assimilated into the Assyrian empire, and, as a result of this policy, the deported tribes lost their cultural identity, becoming traditionally known as the Ten Lost Tribes. Other defeated peoples of the Empire were in turn settled in the land.
Zedekiah, king of Judah (597-586 BCE), is considered the last king from the house of David. In 586 BC, he was toppled by Babylon, who ransacked Jerusalem, killed his heirs before his eyes, gouged out the king's eyes ensuring that would be the last thing he saw, and then deported the population into the Babylonian Captivity. Even after the elite was allowed to return from exile after some fifty years, the country was to remain a part of the Persian Empire as long as it existed.


So the tribes were divided into 13 camps, could this have anything to do with this painting here?
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So there are Twelve bloodlines
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and a thirteenth hidden bloodline.
The Merovingian Bloodline
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posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 03:55 AM
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Revelation 12

 1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

 2And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

 3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.


So there are ten horns, could they be called the Queens Beasts?
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Queen's Beasts
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The Queen's Beasts are ten heraldic statues depicting the genealogy of Queen Elizabeth II. They were commissioned by the Ministry of Works from James Woodford RA, sculptor, to stand in front of the temporary annexe to Westminster Abbey for the Coronation in 1953. The Beasts are some six-foot (1.83 m) high and the sculptor was paid the sum of £2,750. They were cast in plaster and could not therefore be left in the open air. After the Coronation they were removed to the Great Hall in Hampton Court Palace; in 1957 they were relocated to St George's Hall at Windsor Castle. The Beasts were taken into storage in April 1958 whilst their future was considered. It was eventually decided to offer them to the Commonwealth Governments and Canada being the senior nation was offered them first. Eventually in June 1959 Canada accepted the Beasts and they were shipped there in July 1959. Originally the only part of the statues to be coloured was their heraldic shields but for the celebrations of the Canadian federation in 1967 the Beasts were painted in their heraldic colours. They are now in the care of the Canadian Museum of Civilisation in Ottawa. In 1958 Sir Henry Ross, Chairman of the Distillers Company, Edinburgh paid for Portland stone replicas of these statues which are on display outside the Palm House at Kew Gardens. The Beasts have been commemorated in a set of British postage stamps issued in 1998 and in various other forms.

The Beasts are:
▪ The Lion(s) of England
▪ The Griffin of Edward III
▪ The Falcon of the Plantagenets
▪ The Black Bull of Clarence
▪ The Yale of Beaufort
▪ The White Lion of Mortimer
▪ The White Greyhound of Richmond
▪ The Red Dragon of Wales
▪ The Unicorn of Scotland
▪ The White Horse of Hanover


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Revelation 6:8 " And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."

So there you have it folks, the 144,000 are the twelve Royal Bloodlines and the Thirteenth are the The Merovingian Bloodline. Jesus Christ was nothing more than a mortal man who betrayed his teachers and created the Holy Roman Empire. The reason we are all slaves in this world is because people actually believe in this garbage. The "antichrist" is only the person being set up to be the New Messiah for the coming age of Aquarius. People keep looking for the antichrist like there is no tomorrow and await Jesus Christ, though he will never come because that man died along time ago.

So meanwhile people will be forced to worship the so called "antichrist" and if they don't they will be killed in the same fashion Jews were in the rise of the Holy Roman Empire. Unless of course society wakes up to this fact.

There is no such thing as prophecy, just a book written called the Holy Bible that was fabricated from Egyptian pagan religion by Julius Caesar and added into it was the testimony of his son Caesarian (Jesus Christ) which was a complete fabrication of ancient vedic texts. People of many religious faiths follow this stuff like suit in a card game.

Julius Caesars original outline was to create a New World Order to be established in 2033.
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However it was not until recent that some of the forces promoting the NWO became aware of 2012.
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So, we also find out that the Rockefeller side learns about 2012 and that there’s some big event happening that will essentially change life on the surface of the Earth very dramatically. And as a result, they create a vast ... they start creating a vast network of underground bases. It’s obvious the reason why they did this, to create a whole civilization, essentially, underground, is that they did not feel that the surface of the Earth would be viable to live on.

Now again, this gets into doom-and-gloom-sounding stuff. And I just want to make clear that my personal opinion is that the 2012 event refers to shifting in the energetic frequency, which will allow most of us on Earth to live in a parallel existence that is no longer on the physical plane.


Now then that my Behold a Pale Horse Trilogy is complete I must refer back to part one.
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There is a structure we are all familiar with called the Pyramid. In the Illuminatti the very top of their pyramid is one person, the Queen of England and whoever succeeds her will then be the one person on top. This is the reason she is seen on currencies world wide. World Leaders do not rise to power without first pledging allegiance to the queen. 80% of the worlds laws are the same and those laws are passed by the Queen. The beehive in Freemasonry also represents this model, wether acknowledged or known by masons or not, that is the structure and they gather honey for the queen.

Furthermore, there are three independent states that don't pay taxes in the world, they are the Vatican, Washington DC, and Parliament. These independent states proceeds all go to the Queen. Making her the most wealthy and powerful person alive.

I have now given you the knowledge of the power behind the NWO, which is not really even powerful at all when you think about it.

Now go fourth and destroy the NWO!



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 08:06 AM
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Furthermore, there are three independent states that don't pay taxes in the world, they are the Vatican, Washington DC, and Parliament. These independent states proceeds all go to the Queen. Making her the most wealthy and powerful person alive.


I was following this fairly well until you got to the part about independent states who pay no taxes. Washington DC is taxed to death, and, no proceeds fo to the Queen from DC. And, additionally, it's not an independent state of any sort. It is a district of the United States. Having lived there, I know these things to be true. I am sure you are confusing the fact that the federal government pays no taxes in DC. Or possibly the fact the DC city "counsel" is the US Congress. But, if you're an individual living in DC, you pay taxes, moreso than most places. And I can assure you, none of those taxes go to the Queen. The Vatican makes sense, Parliament I don't understand either. I would also question how the Queen is the most powerful person alive at this time. The world doesn't really sit around pondering the moves of the British military these days. Excellent research, but I question the conclusion.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 08:12 AM
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Have you ever been abducted by aliens? Seriously........this is a real question............



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:57 AM
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What I mean basically is that these three are independent of any country and international laws typically do not apply to them the way that they do for other countries. They are not taxed meaning that they typically run our economies and they do tax the hell out of there citizens, but they are typically exempt from the sense that they do not pay taxes and are not burdened by the debt monopoly.

Make sense?

If not please feel free to do some more research on this subject, this is one part that I have not done a sufficient amount of research on yet. So I apologize if my explanation is lacking merit.

But you can think of United states Government as a business, it used to be a democracy, but now it has become a model for business. These three places are allowed to not pay these taxes and make their own laws, independent of the governing bodies that surround them, in order to maintain and effectively control society and run the governing bodies around them.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by heliosprime
Have you ever been abducted by aliens? Seriously........this is a real question............


Not to my knowledge, but thanks for your cynicism.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 12:14 PM
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Yeah, have you been abducted by aliens? Because that is the only way I have found in my research that you can escape their matrix! You must have been abducted to be able to think for yourself. Do you know where the next ship is going to land I want some freedom.

I have only read part of what you are posting so far but this is going to be way beyond most peoples ability to understand, it is to far outside of the matrix. They will have to work and do all of the things that they put into place and most will not have the time and if they find one flaw they will assume that what they were taught in school and bible study to be correct even though we both know it is almost all lies.

Anyways I just thought I would add my little bit here and that is do not forget that these people worship the heavens/stars, etc. and they based everything they did upon the sky. They know our future like the back of their hand and because of what they did to our ancestors most of the world does not have a clue.

Whenever you come to a dead end look for things related to the zodiac, look for the gods that have the same attributes or are connected to Athena. It is no coincidence that there were 13 original colonies or that there are 12 jurors and a judge, it is no coincidence that the dollar bill says in god we trust with 12 letters above the “one”.

It is no coincidence that this bill says new order of the ages, because that is the proper term for NWO. It is what they do at the end of all ages of the zodiac. They must trick and I could not stress the word trick enough because they want you to believe their system has collapsed and a new one is in place, for the people, trusted by the people, it has always been set up so that the majority thinks the savior has come but in reality it has never changed hands since the very beginning, the age of the Virgin.

Read your money, many from one in reverse, almost everything they state is in reverse, 1000 years of piece for them.


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posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 02:47 PM
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Bad orginizations are after effect of bad parenting. There is alot of pain to go around untill the creation and guidence of life is taken seriously. This is where is all starts. Every problem in life can be traced back to bad parenting.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 03:23 PM
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Well, for certain reasons i tend not to get involved in these kind of discussions, but i think it is a little awkward that Caesarion guy was born in 47 BC. It is hard to be born half a century Before C. If he is supposed to be that C, i mean.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 05:04 PM
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what about the evidence suggesting Jesus survived the crucifiction and went on to preach in various parts of the world, fathered some children and lived a good few decades after his apparant "death"? Have you considered all that as if it's true, it kind of blows this idea out of the water.

I looked into this idea of Jesus being Caesarion a few weeks back but there was not enough to completely convince me.

I know ,as Brandon mentions, there is plently of reason to view Jesus as a sun god, but that's just one layer of meaning. I've been researching into events sorrounding his birth and life and there are a LOT of clues to suggest an alien involvement in his conception and ministry....as if he were some sort of plant.......Mary essentially being impregnated artificiallty........(see lost gospel of Judas Escariot) ...many other prophets had similarly stange circumstances around their births and lives which go beyond the mere "sun worship" thing which one could view as a clever "cover" story for the "real" circumstances.....

I'm becoming pretty drawn into Michael Tellinger's idea of many of the most influential prophets being "plants" to further along the alien agenda of dividing man ("divide then conquer"). This makes a lot of sense then when you consider all major religions are awaiting the return of their messiah's and the elite seem to have this person ready and waiting (Maitreya) and this Maitreya is to act as a "bridge" between humans and the UFO phenomena

I'm still researching so not dismissing anything yet but I've found relatively little evidence for the Caesarion link which at the moment seems to be a convenient fit but is a theory with holes in it still.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 07:13 PM
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Well, for certain reasons i tend not to get involved in these kind of discussions, but i think it is a little awkward that Caesarion guy was born in 47 BC. It is hard to be born half a century Before C. If he is supposed to be that C, i mean.


Actually I am glad you asked, bear with me for a second because this is a bit confusing, even to me. Before we had the twelve month calendar system it was thirteen months, like the Mayan Calendar. Julius Caesar was actually the one responsible for the twelve month calendar we have today, which was later modified once again by Pope Gregory into the Gregorian calendar that we have now.

So there is this one descrepancy, which we sort of have to take a closer look at and try to understand what happened exactly.

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The Gregorian calendar is not based on logic, science, or nature. It denies and covers up the true annual human biological cycle conserved in the body of woman. It is the current world standard because of the forceful issuance of this system upon conquered (indigenous) peoples who lost their land as well as their religious freedoms. The Gregorian calendar is a product of its predecessors - Julius Caesar's calendar and the earlier Roman Empire calendar.


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WHAT'S IN A NAME?

The 12 month calendar which currently serves as the world standard of time is called the Gregorian Calendar, named for Pope Gregory XIIIth who "revised" the previous Julian calendar (named for Julius Caesar). October 5, 1582 was followed by October 16th, 1582, correcting for the Julian calendar which had slipped behind the Spring Equinox by 10 days. Aside from an improved leap year calculation, Pope Gregory's calendar has no structural differences from Caesar's calendar.

The Julian calendar, (instituted in 46-45 B.C.) was preceded by the calendar of the Roman Empire, which was actually a calendar of only 10 months. On the original Roman count, September (which literally means 7) was the 7th month, October (which means 8 - like octagon) was the 8th month, November (9) was the ninth, and December (10) was the tenth and last month.

When Julius Caesar came to power he inserted the 31-day month of July (named for Julius) and later his son Augustus Caesar placed his name in the calendar - the 31-day month of August, throwing the names of the rest of the month's askew!

The names of the months are as illogical as their uneven numbering. January is derived from the God of the doorway; February is an obscure word referring to a divinatory rite using animal entrails; Mars refers to the planet and god of war; April and May refer to goddesses of the spring; June to the wife of Jupiter.

The word "calendar" itself is derived from a the Latin word meaning "account book," the first day of every month being "calends" or the date of payment of debts. This confirms the depths of the societal programming that "time is money."





When Octavian invaded Egypt in 30 BC, Cleopatra VII sent Caesarion, then seventeen years old, to the Red Sea port of Berenice for safety, with possible plans of an escape to India. Octavian captured the city of Alexandria on August 1, 30 BC, the date that marks the official annexation of Egypt to the Roman Republic. Mark Antony had committed suicide prior to Octavian's entry into the capital; Cleopatra followed his example by committing suicide on August 12, 30 BC. Caesarion's guardians, including his tutor, either were themselves lured by false promises of mercy into returning the boy to Alexandria or perhaps even betrayed him; the records are unclear.


So we know that at 30 BC Caesarion was Seventeen, which would be correct according to his birthdate being 47 BC.




Octavian then assumed absolute control of Egypt. The year 30 BC was considered the first year of the new ruler's reign according to the traditional chronological system of Egypt. In lists of the time Octavian himself appears as a Pharaoh and the successor to Caesarion.


Ok, so this is a bit confusing, but as I mentioned before there is a major descrepancy with the calendar system after the time of Julius Caesar and his establishment of the 12 month calendar.

Now just doing a quick look on Wikipedia, you will notice a very uneventful period between 21 BC and 1 AD, so thats about a 21-22 year descrepancy.

Julius Caesar changed the calendar in 46 BC, the year after Caesarion was born (according to the historical account Jesus was being about 1 BC.)




When Octavian invaded Egypt in 30 BC, Cleopatra VII sent Caesarion, then seventeen years old, to the Red Sea port of Berenice for safety, with possible plans of an escape to India. Octavian captured the city of Alexandria on August 1, 30 BC


So it was during this time when there were major changes occuring within the empire itself. According to this theory Caesarion went to India and studied vedic texts later returning to Egypt and captured the Empire under the name Esau, (Egyptian for Jesus, meaning son of Isis) established the Holy Roman Empire. That of course would have something to do with this discrepancy a year after Caesarion was born they had established a twelve month calendar and started counting from 0.

Yeah, it's pretty confusing. I have a hard time wrapping my head around it also. But if you take a close look, there is a period of time that wasn't really accounted for historically.



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So in conclusion to my last post and opening post. I did not mistype or not think about what I was writing. When I wrote that Caesarion lived from 47 BC - 33 AD it was not an error, I was aware that to the naked eye it appears that I was suggesting that he lived for 100 years. When in fact I was not indicating that at all. I did know that somebody would bring this to my attention, the reason I left it like that was for this reason.

So if you are not already confused enough, I will continue.

At the point when Caesar changed the calendar, I can imagine there was quite a bit of turmoil and they were trying to restructure the Empire in a way that to many would go unnoticed so that the successors would keep their seat after the event of the "Fall of an Empire"


This was done a year or so after Caesarian was born, so it should be noted that Julius Caesar had a bit of foresight when it came to this matter.

Now the reason for this 21-22 year discrepancy to the best of my knowledge is part of the cover up. This was done deliberately as a way to phase at the old empire as the reseat the new one. Meanwhile the same powerful bloodlines would not lose their seats in the succession of power. Therefore the reason that there seems to be 21 years or so that went unnacounted for is because by this time they had reseated the power structure and created the Holy Roman Empire. That is why everything that has to do with Ancient Egypt is recorded up to about 21 AD and everything after 46 BC that had to do with the Roman Empire was historically counted for as 1 AD and onward.

So there was a period in time when these two periods were intermingled in our history books, because at this time they were reseating the New Holy Roman Empire.

So in short Julius Caesar changed to the 12 month calendar system during 46 BC which is what we know today as 0 AD.



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Why not save up your pennies


then get down to your nearest book store


or go online and search for


Professor Schlomo Sand's book


"When And How the Jewish People Was Invented" is a very serious study written by Professor Shlomo Sand, an Israeli historian. It is the most serious study of Jewish nationalism and by far, the most courageous elaboration on the Jewish historical narrative.

In his book, Sand manages to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that the Jewish people never existed as a nation-race, they never shared a common origin. Instead they are a colourful mix of groups that at various stages in history adopted the Jewish religion.




Sand argues that the idea of a Jewish nation -- whose need for a safe haven was originally used to justify the founding of the state of Israel -- is a myth invented little more than a century ago.

In addition, he argues that the Jews were never exiled from the Holy Land, that most of today's Jews have no historical connection to the land called Israel and that the only political solution to the country's conflict with the Palestinians is to abolish the Jewish state.


Professor Sand's book is in its twelfth reprinting and has been translated into several languages. Israelis cannot buy his book fast enough.


And do Jewish historians challenge Sand's assertion that 'Jewishness is simply a myth invented by Zionists ' ?

NO. They do not !

Instead, they ask what all the big deal's about ? Everyone is aware that Jewishness was invented by Zionists, they claim. And these jewish scholars and academics are keen for it to be known that Professor Sand is telling them anything they didn't already know !

As Sand states:

"It is not taught in Israeli schools but most of the early Zionist leaders, including David Ben Gurion [Israel's first prime minister], believed that the Palestinians were the descendants of the area's original Jews. They believed the Jews had later converted to Islam."



And again .... most early Zionist leaders believed the Palestinians were the decendants of the original Jews. And they believed the Jews had converted to ISLAM


Why not get yourselves a copy of Schlomo Sand's book ' When and How Was the Jewish People Invented ?' and learn the actual TRUTH ?

Go on. It won't hurt


Why not do as millions of Jews and Israelis have done and read the truth ?


Trust me, there is still life after truth --- a better, less ignorant life



and here to get you started on your quest for truth about this issue (made EASY for everyone, courtesy of the born and raised Israeli/Jewish academic and scholar ...... Professor Schlomo Sand of Tel Aviv university


electronicintifada.net...

mondediplo.com...

www.thehandstand.org...



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 08:30 PM
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what about the evidence suggesting Jesus survived the crucifiction and went on to preach in various parts of the world, fathered some children and lived a good few decades after his apparant "death"? Have you considered all that as if it's true, it kind of blows this idea out of the water.


How about some evidence that Jesus did in fact die on the cross and rose from the dead three days later?

What some people believe is that since this was deliberately planned out, Jesus was crucified but never to the point of actually dying, so that they could make it seem as though he had been resurrected from the dead.

Its just plain impossible, never has it been documented in history that somebody could die and come back to life three days later.

As for the other part of that question, I believe I covered that in my previous post.

He did visit other parts of the world, Asia, Egypt and Europe.




I know ,as Brandon mentions, there is plently of reason to view Jesus as a sun god, but that's just one layer of meaning. I've been researching into events sorrounding his birth and life and there are a LOT of clues to suggest an alien involvement in his conception and ministry....as if he were some sort of plant.......Mary essentially being impregnated artificiallty........(see lost gospel of Judas Escariot) ...many other prophets had similarly stange circumstances around their births and lives which go beyond the mere "sun worship" thing which one could view as a clever "cover" story for the "real" circumstances.....


Well not only did ancient Egytpitians know the distance from the earth to the sun in miles as depicted in the architecture of the great pyramid, but Esau means (son of ISIS) Isis was the self proclaimed virgin Goddess or Virgo.

Aliens? Read Genesis 6:1,




Genesis 6

1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.


They did indeed become mighty men which were of old and mighty men of renown and valour. Just pick up a history book and try not reading about these people. It's just about impossible.

Mary being a virgin? Maybe. But Cleopatra was not. I a have an easier time believing that Jesus was the son of Cleopatra and adopted by Mary and joseph then I do believing in an immaculate conception..But thats just me.

Sun clever? yeah perhaps. But easily identifiable when reading the Bible, especially knowing this.




I'm becoming pretty drawn into Michael Tellinger's idea of many of the most influential prophets being "plants" to further along the alien agenda of dividing man ("divide then conquer"). This makes a lot of sense then when you consider all major religions are awaiting the return of their messiah's and the elite seem to have this person ready and waiting (Maitreya) and this Maitreya is to act as a "bridge" between humans and the UFO phenomena


Well I am not familiar with Michael Tellinger but I do believe there was an alien inttervention which make up the thirteen royal bloodlines as ateated in Genesis 6.

Matreyah, I have read about him to. But he is so far out of the publics eye, it is kinda hard to tell wether they would use him in this type of scenario or not. You could be right, I have no opinion about that. I do know that he has travelled around and prophesied to many Navajo native Americans though.




I'm still researching so not dismissing anything yet but I've found relatively little evidence for the Caesarion link which at the moment seems to be a convenient fit but is a theory with holes in it still.


I hope that cleared up any of the confusion I may have left in my original post.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 08:32 PM
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Thank you for the very useful and helpful information. I will definitely look into that.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 08:34 PM
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Well what I find interesting Brandon, is the thread you started about the last supper. I do believe that it does tie into this somehow.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 08:37 PM
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So there are Twelve bloodlines




and a thirteenth hidden bloodline.




The Merovingian Bloodline.


(Sorry, it wouldn't allow me to quote it whole.)

How can there be so many different bloodlines? Whatis with the "hidden" bloodlines?

I have heard that Satan does have (secret bloodlines), aswell.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 08:44 PM
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Well take a look at this painting and tell me what you think.
See the hand?
upload.wikimedia.org...(1452-1519)_-_The_Last_Supper_(1495-1498).jpg

Thats the Thirteenth bloodline that is hidden and Queen Elizabeth is a part of that bloodline.



posted on Nov, 8 2008 @ 10:29 AM
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Man 12.21.12 theres always something interesting with you


great posts although i had already seen Ring of Power a few weeks ago, still good nonetheless

I find that if you combine the story of Jesus from Zeitgeist with the ring of Power you get a pretty accurate representation of his life and which parts the bible changes

i was going to make a thread on just that, but i dont have the time,

they just seem to fill in each others missing parts.

edit: i was just thinking about the number thirteen, in relation to the blood lines and i decided to look at how many planets we have in the solar system, curiously enough there 8 planets and 5 dwarf planets a total of 13.

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