I am white, and cannot voice my opinion about Obama

*** ATTENTION ***

Ok, it's like this.

Either everyone and I mean EVERYONE is going to post on topic and stop the uncivil posts or Posting Bans will be handed out and the thread closed.

Last Chance.



[edit on 7-11-2008 by elevatedone]

so what you're telling me, o great moderator of ATS, is if I use the "N word" in a joking fashion and say "just kidding" it's not offensive?



Blacks, as you call them, still picked it up. It started as a class term, but things change. It's now a racial slur. Ex: you don't hear Bill Gates calling Joe Plumber a "cracker"


Edit: just read the mod post...

TO BE CLEAR: I am not trying to be uncivil. I am merely pointing out the double standards abound with racism. Not just here on ATS.

[edit on 7-11-2008 by Sliick]

You can voice your displeasure about anything; that is your right. And, other people can voice their opinion about your displeasure; that is their right. That doesn't mean that you have to give a flying rat's backend about what they think of you and/or your opinion.

Obama was elected. He is our President-elect, and whether we like it or not, whether we like him or not, we owe it to our country to give him a chance.

Because you know bill gates personally right? And of course the meaning of words relys on bill gates and not websters! LOL!

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My advice is to hold back for a bit and wait. We still have 2 months until he actually becomes President. He'll have plenty of opportunity to gain your criticism by next December and when everyone realizes that Obama isn't going to run through the streets handing out $100 bills to everyone you'll have lots of support from every race backing your criticism.

Most of the midwest didn't know mccain's policies and sarah palin definitely didn't know and she was his running mate!

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If anyone feels that they cannot speak because someone may commit violence against them, weigh the options. If you are simply not strong enough in your argument and this dissuades you from speaking, tough luck. I have been blasted by not only strangers but close family and friends for the last 7 years arguing vs GW/Guantanamo/Patriot Act/Iraq/Albert Gonzalez/Scooter Libby/Crawford ranch - vacation capital of the world/Osama Bin who?/Haliburton/Heck of a job there Brownie yadayadayada and so what? If you can articulate an argument dont be such a wimp. No one is stopping you from doing anything. And are your opinions solely based upon his candidacy? He hasn't done anything yet has he? Oh, yeah, and where is that guy acting as President, what' his name again? Where is he?

ColoradoJens

[edit on 7-11-2008 by ColoradoJens]

wtf? I received that same message Tuesday night or early Wed morning. I thought it was my brother in law who sent it, but I had so many others that I didnt really check. I think it is just a joke, but it's gone so viral that it's everywhere.

I get the muslim bit but black? Really? Why can't I call him black? I get called white and no one cares, but call a black person 'black', and we hassled like nobodies business. Where is the equality? It's old world racism in reverse!

[If that's not what you meant, I'm sorry. Just consider my point unrelated.]

I've been hearing people say that because Obama got in, we must be seeing the decline of racism. WTF?! This has been the most racist election I have ever seen. What percent of black people voted for Obama? What percent of them voted for him because of the colour of his skin?

[edit on 11/7/2008 by Good Wolf]

Click here for more information.

Do you know what % of whites voted for mccain just to keep a black from winning?

Kill that noise dude!

No it isn't. That fact is circumstantial. If, however, that is the case because of the actions or behaviour of the white people in that 90% then it is racism.

I'm not saying that's not the case. I'm not pretending whites are all not racist anymore. I'm saying that Obama being voted in doesn't represent equality. That nothing has changed.

[edit on 11/7/2008 by Good Wolf]

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I had posted once previously but I had to add - you do see the irony of posting this opinion thread about not being able to voice your opinion, yes? Again, I simply ask, who/what/ is stopping you?

ColoradoJens

*snip*

here we go with the mud-slinging.

I am happy that America can vote in a Black president. HOORAH! They just could have picked a better man for the job. That's just my opinion, and YES I will give him a chance before anything else.

As for your comment on reparations, it IS aimed at whites. Who owned the slaves? Whites. The government is who you want money from. If Blacks want reparations for the years of slavery, I want reparations for my ancestors that fought and died for one of the causes of the civil war. (Including Lincoln) FYI slavery was not the main reason for the civil war, though it was a very important issue. State rights vs Federal rights was the main cause/issue. (most of the north owned slaves, including Lincoln. Just in a different fashion)

The fact that 90% of government is white does not constitute racism. However, claiming this and that is racist, is racist in itself. O joy double standards again

One Black president means a lot. Especially to me. (I am white) I am VERY happy that a Black man can become president. It shows to me that we are willing to look past race for our leaders. Unfortunately, it seems that some of us cannot.

Mod Edit: Removed offensive quote that is no longer on the board.

[edit on 11/7/2008 by maria_stardust]

...And the circumstance is racism! The civil rights bill was passed in 1963-5 and the US is how old?

So the fact that the US government wasn't inclusive is black peoples fault?

We don't blame white people, we blame the government! Sorry the government was racist, but we wouldn't have a case otherwise, right?

I don't really see African-American as opposed to black as politically correct. Not all blacks are African-American, Jamaican-Americans consider themselves black also(any that I have spoken with, anyways). Also, all of my black friends and classmates (not just people my age(20), I go to a college that caters to adults who want a "fresh start") say they identify themselves as black, and think the whole "African-American is politically correct" is completely moronic.

On the topic, I wouldn't worry about voicing your opinions, try pointing out that your opinions have nothing to do with race, and if they are ignorant enough to deny this, then they shouldn't be worth your time.

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Stand up and speak your mind and quite making excuses.
I don’t care if you like him or not - but don’t use excuses that you *can’t*.

Giving in to that line a bologna just gives all this racists crudolla more power - so - you’re supporting racism whether you want to or not - by not speaking your mind one way or another.

UGH!
The guy isn’t even sworn in yet and people are already flipping out.

...taps...



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