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reply posted on 6-9-2009 @ 09:47 PM by KissMyTwinkys
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
I love the internet... with a little research you can debunk any would be conspiracy. It is very simple Nassim Haramein and others are just wrong. As was noted above the comet's corona appeared as twice as large as the planet Jupiter, its mass was not. See www.gulfcoastnews.com... for details.

The comet was called NEAT and passed through our solar system in Feburary 2003.

Here is another link that even talks about the so called cover-up. www.space.com...

Truth is Nassim has some very interesting thoeries about the nature of our universe but they unfortunately will not get noticed as long as he does not stay grounded in the facts; which he seems to overlook for the dramatic and $ in sales.



reply posted on 6-9-2009 @ 09:54 PM by KissMyTwinkys
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reply posted on 6-9-2009 @ 10:19 PM by KRISKALI777
reply to post by ZenThalysis


Hi Zen,
actually, Jupiter is not a 'gas giant'.
Many are excused for thinking this, and in fact the Astronomical community did hold this as plausible until in 1994, comet shoemaker-levi 9 tore apart and impacted on to the planets surface.
Please see this link:


There are some fantastic photographs around showing the surface of jupiter, beneath its once thought impenetrable clouds.Have a look and tell me what you think; if interested I am sure I've seen other photos that do show some surface detail ; did a bit of browsing and this is all I could come up with for the moment.



Anyway back to the OP, I dont think that it is likely an object that big would be able to pass through the solar system without being detected by thousands of amateur astronomers combing the skies nightly.....it been said on this thread before.

[edit on 9/6/2009 by KRISKALI777]


reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 03:04 PM by john124
Originally posted by VitalOverdose
Is this something to do with this post?

www.abovetopsecret.com...


[edit on 7-9-2009 by VitalOverdose]


Not really!

This thread's OP is misrepresenting a comet's coma.

The thread you linked to is discussing galaxy collisions and how stars can end up in different galaxies over billions of years.

Neither are particularly new insights. Cometary coma's have been known for decades, and the other thread confirms various theories of galaxy mergers, and heavier elements found here have originated from cores of older stars that went supernovae billions of years ago.

Nothing to do with a brown dwarf hitting us in 2012 and actually reality is much more interesting than a conspiracy theory.

[edit on 7-9-2009 by john124]


reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 06:21 PM by Soylent Green Is People
Originally posted by john124
...Nothing to do with a brown dwarf hitting us in 2012 and actually reality is much more interesting than a conspiracy theory.

[edit on 7-9-2009 by john124]

I was thinking the same thing.

It seems the very interesting part of that story got glossed over in that thread -- and that is the fact that the star in question had no elements heavier than hydrogen and helium.

Stars in our galaxy are multi-generational -- i.e., they are the great great great great grandchildren of very earlier stars that were also devoid of heavy elements, like that rogue star in that post.

Heavy elements such as carbon and heavy metals such as iron (and heavier) are only made in stars' supernovae -- and the more generations of supernovae, the heavier the elements that exist. Each successive generation of star creates heavier elements upon going nova.

For example, our solar system and our sun are rich in heavy elements, meaning that there were probably several generations of stars and supernovae that occurred over to create the raw materials that made our solar system. The materials that make up our solar system must have come from a few generations of supernova.

Carl Sagan said it best when he said "We are made of star-stuff", which literally means we humans (our carbon, zinc, the iron in our blood) were created when a star went supernovae billions of years ago. The iron and other elements that make you were once deep inside a star.

Almost all of the stars in our galaxy are like ours -- rich in heavy elements. The rogue star ATS member vital overdose mentioned is devoid of these heavy elements, therefore it probably came from elsewhere -- a galaxy where star formation is not as robust as our own galaxy.

THAT was the most interesting item in that article.

[edit on 9/7/2009 by Soylent Green Is People]


reply posted on 7-9-2009 @ 07:03 PM by Soylent Green Is People
reply to post by VitalOverdose


No problem

I always thought that was one of the most interesting aspects of Carl Sagan's famous truism "We are made of star-stuff" -- and most people overlook it.

They hear words of that quote but don't quite realize the enormity of the meaning.


reply posted on 12-9-2009 @ 05:41 AM by Karilla
Originally posted by KRISKALI777
reply to post by ZenThalysis


Hi Zen,
actually, Jupiter is not a 'gas giant'.
Many are excused for thinking this, and in fact the Astronomical community did hold this as plausible until in 1994, comet shoemaker-levi 9 tore apart and impacted on to the planets surface.
Please see this link:


There are some fantastic photographs around showing the surface of jupiter, beneath its once thought impenetrable clouds.Have a look and tell me what you think; if interested I am sure I've seen other photos that do show some surface detail ; did a bit of browsing and this is all I could come up with for the moment.
[edit on 9/6/2009 by KRISKALI777]


This is from the site you linked to:
Seismic waves

As predicted beforehand, the collisions generated enormous seismic waves which swept across the planet at speeds of 450 km/s (280 mi/s) and were observed for over two hours after the largest impacts. The waves were thought to be travelling within a stable layer acting as a waveguide, and some scientists believed the stable layer must lie within the hypothesised tropospheric water cloud. However, other evidence seemed to indicate that the cometary fragments had not reached the water layer, and the waves were instead propagating within the stratosphere.


Doesn't sound much like Jupiter has anything solid to hit, and the image isn't of Jupiter's surface, but one of the dark smudges, the perturbations, caused by the shoemaker-levi comet impacting it. And before you ask what it impacted, if not the surface, this is from the same site:
Astronomers did not observe large amounts of water following the collisions, and later impact studies found that fragmentation and destruction of the cometary fragments in an 'airburst' probably occurred at much higher altitudes than previously expected, with even the largest fragments being destroyed when the pressure reached 250 kPa (36 psi), well above the expected depth of the water layer. The smaller fragments were probably destroyed before they even reached the cloud layer.

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