Barrack Obama's Family dress in Black and Red on Election Night

I've done a little research on what these colors might represent, an I must say that it does raise an eyebrow.

People that research this kinfd of stuff do understand that signs and symbols from secret societies surrond us evryday. They are in the corporate logos, The media, the Hollywood Movies, and just about everywhere you look.

How we interpret them from their point of view is another subject.

So there is a book called:

Black and Red: W.E.B. Du Bois and the Afro-American Response to the Cold War, 1944-1963

I've not read it, but supposedly it goes into detail this quote (I found on another forum):

Black and red bisected symbolism

The red-and-black flag is the symbol of the anarcho-syndicalist and anarcho-communist movements. Black is the traditional color of anarchism, and red is the traditional color of socialism. The red-and-black flag combines the two colors in equal parts, with a simple diagonal split. Typically, the red section is placed on the top-left corner, with the black on the bottom-right corner of the flag. This symbolizes the co-existence of anarchist and socialist ideals within the anarcho-syndicalism movement, and to symbolize the more socialistic means of the movement leading to a more anarchistic end.


The CNT-FAI's version of the red-and-black flagOne of the most famous variations of the anarcho-syndicalist flag is that of Spain's Confederación Nacional del Trabajo (National Confederation of Labor, CNT), which still exists today. The CNT, along with the Federación Anarquista Ibérica (Iberian Anarchist Federation, FAI), a major militant faction within the CNT, was a major player in the popular anarchist movements in Spain of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. This group has its own version of the red-and-black flag with its initials on the flag. CNT is in the red, while FAI is in the black – the color of anarchy – as the FAI was founded in 1927 to keep the CNT dedicated to anarchist principles.


Black and Red Africa - Zabalaza Federation's logoAnother variation on the red-and-black theme is the red-and-black Africa used mostly by the Zabalaza Anarchist Communist Federation (ZACF or ZabFed), a federation of anarchist groups in South Africa. ZabFed was inspired by the Organisational Platform of the Libertarian Communists. ZabFed members share a basic agreement in terms of theoretical and tactical unity, collective responsibility, and federalism as suggests by the Platform. In historical terms the Platformist tradition starts with The Organizational Platform of the Libertarian Communists, and in the post-war period many include documents like the Georges Fontenis' pamphlet Manifesto of Libertarian Communism.
The symbolism of a united Africa, displayed in traditional anarchist communist colours, is an important one, as a mixture of different demographic groups are represented by Zalabaza in the midst of a societal environment that is otherwise tense with post-colonial racial and sexual issues.

any thoughts?

If this is in the wrong forum I apologize, But I do not apologize for thinking the fact that Michelle Obama is dressed up like a "Black Widow Spider" is kind of a big deal.

I'm not trying to bash Obama either... I'm just skeptical.

[edit on 6-11-2008 by Doomsday 2029]

I as well thought it odd, the red and black. I'm not saying that it means anything at all but I have to be honest and admit what I was thinking. I especially found it strange that they would dress one of their daughters in black. To me, children should not be dressed as though thery're in mourning. Colors are symbolic and well, ok here goes: Red is called a power color, many politicians wear red. Perhaps the black added into the ensembles signifies black power. Just random babbling thoughts here.....

Ya but we'll see, right? I hope the intel services bust chops on any race hate groups and keep him alive. It's really an embarrassment for a country to lose a leader, especially when the people guarding him are the best in the world.

We'll see, like I said. If you see any skinheads standing around talking better have a directional mic on hand to nail them while they plot! Same for the Panthers...hey, I am not saying we should let those two groups duke it out so we can all see how much of wimps they really are or anything like that but they need to understand that plotting or trying to do something that is not in their best interests is also not good for forwarding the goals they might have.

My dear old mum told me a story about how the young people in WW2 Germany were aloud to see how wrong their ideas were and this was managed by asking them critical questions that they could directly relate to. Pretty neat that the younger people could be saved the pain of their nation for another time just by showing them that they were lead astray.

Black is a color of dignity and honor...red is a color of compassion and diligence. Michelle Obama is not the president, but she does have his ear and his bed. Maybe they wanted to match or just look good in front of the flag behind them?

I spent the majority of time wondering why the choice of apparell and colors. I would be interested to find out what others on the forum have to say. S@F op...

I don't know, black and red is a good combo. Looks good.

hmmm.

AmethystWolf started a thread about this on the 4th. A Mod moved it to BTS. It can be found here

I googled color symbolism and psychology and this is what Wikepedia had:
RED: Passion, strength, energy, fire, love, sex, excitement, speed, heat, arrogance, ambition, leadership, masculinity, power, danger, gaudiness, blood, war, anger, revolution, radicalism, socialism, communism, aggression, summer, autumn, stop, Mars (planet), respect, Aries (star sign), December, the Roman Catholic Church[citation needed], martyrs, the Holy Spirit, conservatism (U.S. politics), wealth (China).
Studies show that red can have a physical effect, increasing the rate of respiration and raising blood pressure; red also is said to make people hungry; the red ruby is the traditional 40th wedding anniversary gift. Red is also the color of the devil in modern Western culture.
BLACK: Absence, modernity, power, sophistication, formality, elegance, wealth, mystery, style, evil, death (Western cultures), fear, anonymity, anger, sadness, remorse, mourning, unhappiness, sex, seriousness, conventionality, rebellion, anarchism, unity, sorrow, life, rebirth (ancient Egypt), slimming quality (fashion), January (Northern Hemisphere only).
I'm I aloud to post like this? Yikes, I hope so.

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Your response to this issue is most similar to my own

Like you, I wondered why any parent would dress their little daughter in all-black.

She was the youngest of the family.

If my husband had just been elected as president, I would have chosen something pretty for my daughters to wear --- something appropriate to their age -- and I daresay I would have invited the girls themselves to nominate what they'd like to wear on such an important occasion.

There doesn't seem any doubt at all that the colours of red and black (and there were NO other colours on the family on that occasion) must have been chosen to signify something.

You're having a discussion with your family and you know there's at least a 50/50 chance you're all going to be standing up there before the entire world, on the winners' dias ... so several months in advance, you ask your family for some input into what you'd all like to wear on the forthcoming and momentous occasion. You have months in which to have the outfits tailored and you figure now's a good time to get the family's opinions in order their wardrobe can be arranged in advance.

It would have to be a pretty weird family where a very young girl stated: ' Well mum and dad .. on that night I'd like to wear black. Nothing else. Just black.' With the other little girl adding, ' And I'd like to wear all red. Nothing else .. all red.'

I don't believe it happened that way.

Someone, for some reason, decided 'red and black' would be the colours worn when the Obama family claimed victory.

I doubt very much that the Obamas would have worn red and black if Obama had lost.

So, like the rest of the world, I'm interested to learn about the very strong message the Obamas were intending to send out when they wore those colours on that occasion.

And seeing the Obamas have made no attempt to explain -- then it's perfectly natural for people to comment and speculate as to the reasons they made such a point of wearing what was, let's face it, a fairly controversial and uncompromising ... bizarre ... wardrobe.

Does anyone think they wore red and black because it was Halloween period ? Was it an in-joke .. or just for fun, maybe a parody of the Munster family ?

sitting next to my pal watching it the other night, he said maybe they are wearing red to calm the nerves of the republicans, a sort of subliminal hit. Its either nothing, or a combination of all that is stated in this thread, either way, awesome. Makes life much more interesting. Spices things up ya know. All I know, is the daughter wearing blue looked out of place.

I thought it looked horrible. Big difference from her usual polished and smart look.

My first thought when I saw it was some sort of statement. Then when the black widow correlation was made along with the black and red flag info...definitly makes one wonder.

Someone somewhere (can't remember, sorry) said black and red had to do with mourning in Hawaii, but that dress had to have been made and finished before Monday when grandma died, so that doesn't fly with me.

Then an article on Yahoo described the outfits and Barack was wearing navy blue and Michelle and the girls wore red and black. You'd think black or dark grey might have been a better choice for his suit.

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Did a daughter wear blue ?

If you're referring to the smallest one ... it came across as black on my monitor and tv

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Where on earth would you find a made-to-measure all black dress for a little girl in a hurry ?

The only other time I've seen a young child publicly shown to be dressed in all-black was when the media (and later the parents) revealed that an all-black outfit had been specially made for little Azaria Chamberlain, years ago. She was less than a year old at the time. (non-Australians might remember that Azaria Chamberlain was allegedly taken and eaten by a dingo .. another highly controversial outfit choice for a child).

crazy thought here...maybe just maybe they were wearing red and black because they like those colors? Red and black are easy to make the whole family match. I would also love the dress Michelle Obama was wearing. It was totally hot!

Red goes well with black. And I thought it looked cute that they all matched. Nothing more then that.

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Here is from USA today.

www.usatoday.com...
"Meanwhile, President-elect Barack Obama wore the same style dark-navy suit custom-made by Hart Schaffner Marx that he wore at the Democratic Convention, the company says. Hart Schaffner Marx makes its suits in the Obamas' home state of Illinois.

The couple's daughter Malia wore a red bubble-hem dress, and younger daughter Sasha wore a black dress with a bow."

Well I guess my entire High School was Communist/Socialist then lol. The Chicago Bulls must be a Soviet plant as well lol.

On a serious note though, the reason that your analysis brings forth some suspicion, is simply due to the fact that Obama did in fact belong to a Socialist Party.

I wonder if we will ever witness this side of Obama's leftist Philosophies emerge publicly, or if he will play it safe for the first Four Years, in order to attain re-election.

Dam people his grandmother had just died clearly his family where in mourning despite the state occasion and where dressed in an appropriate manner.

Dressed for mourning. Possible. I thought it looked pretty good, actually. As for a black dress for a little girl? They're both rather wealthy, not to mention that trainload of campaign money...not a lot of difficulty getting one, I would think, what with people in the campaign who's sole function is making them look good...and they did.

I didn't really pay much attention to the clothing.
But I remember in his speech he said "Its time to summon a new spirit".
That was a little alarming and it seemed like he didn't mean to say it.
Who writing his speech's a warlock?

I have to admit upon seeing Michelle's dress and the kids colour choice I did wonder if they were symbolic. I didn't like the colours, they seemed inappropriate for the occasion.