Originally posted by Marcus Calpurnius

Originally posted by Zenagain
That's not even remotely an F-117. Look closer. It's sleeker and has upward canted wingtips.

I used to see them flying around all the time when I was in the USAF and I can tell you, that is an F117. I don't know why the USAF would be flying top secret craft around the most known base in the world anyway.

Try a bit harder, that isn't an F-117. It's long and mostly flat minus the wing tips. It has three central focuses of light, where are you going to see that on the F-117 and where is the flight canopy if its an F-117?

lol

Originally posted by pteridine
There was a stealth attack aircraft that the Navy was developing called the A-12 that was purportedly cancelled. It had the same look.

An A-12 is an SR-71 without the recon package. Another variant is the YF-12.

A-12 is not top secret or new. It has been around a while.

Like they would have a top secret plane out in daylight. Looks to be a 117 on a landing with flaps deployed at a good distance in pic 1. But those who want it to be something else will never see it. The point over the cockpit is 100% obvious. I doubt a hypersonic aircraft would have such a point.

I shared this with a my partner (he's a really smart guy) here is what he had to say.

Looks plausible. Although it would have been nice if the person who took the picture posted the real original photo.

Also, the linked photos say they were taken with a Panasonic DMC-FZ8 which is a 7 mega pixel camera. The EXIF data says however that it's only a 2 mega pixel image. Why downsize the image?

Also if he/she had posted the original image all of the EXIF data would have been attached to the file. It makes me suspicious the file has been modifed if that data is not there. Someone would have to know how to remove that data to do that, which again makes me suspicious.

However, it does look plausible. Analysts have been saying for years the Aurora exists and we know they wouldn't have retired the F117 unless they had something that replaced it.

Honestly, it looks fake to me.
The object appears to be flat. It seems like it doesn't have any depth (ie. like it's a 2d object).

Hopefully if the image manipulation experts, like Jeff Ritzman and David Biedny, have any time, they will analyze it better than any of us could and reach some conclusions.

From the two pictures it looks to me as the object changed directions. So the author should have been able to get a sense of speed and maneuverability. Has the OP said anything about it's speed or maneuverability?

Until the OP explains this

"Also, the linked photos say they were taken with a Panasonic DMC-FZ8 which is a 7 mega pixel camera. The EXIF data says however that it's only a 2 mega pixel image. Why downsize the image?

Also if he/she had posted the original image all of the EXIF data would have been attached to the file. It makes me suspicious the file has been modifed if that data is not there. Someone would have to know how to remove that data to do that, which again makes me suspicious. "

I am saying- H-O-A-X

Originally posted by Marcus Calpurnius


Its right there at the top. The plane is coming towards him, so all you really see are the triangle cockpit and a bit of the wings.

I tried to show you what I'm talking about here, but couldn't find an f117 at the exactly right angle. Its basically coming straight at him, but tilted slightly to the right, so the wings look more swept back.

/facepalm

I suppose the 3 lights you see under it are "reflections right?" lol

Blow up either picture, 1 or 2.. you can clearly make out the aircraft and isn't an F-117.

Claiming its a F-117 is like claiming that random rock formations in the Mars photos are "clearly" pyramids from a past civilization.

Gotta use a little common sense in this dear ole world of ours.

Look closer at the first pic. When you click on all sizes and look at the big picture, it's definitely NOT an F-117, no matter how many times you try to show that it is. The F-117 would only have two points of white light showing without the gear down, and you'd only see three in a nose on shot with the gear down. This has three points of white light showing, and it's obvious that the gear is NOT down.

It's in a right bank, nose going to the left, with the wingtips making it look like a raised fuselage. I've seen enough F-117s in landing configuration to recognize them. I used to have to stand on the runway waiting for them to get their drag chutes so they could come off the runway. This is NOT an F-117.

The easiest way to prove this is to find out when the picture was taken. If it was after the last flight date, then it's really obvious that this is not an F-117.

You know what I just now noticed? (cause I am a clueless idiot sometimes)

If a post has an inferrence of earth bound origin, for example someone prefaces it with: "I took the pic near area 51" then there isn't one peep about it being an alien craft being covered up by Nasa or the US Government.

But if someone omits that and the picture is even remotely blurry, out of focus or really distant (think a snashot of a street map from 500 yards) then we get 100's of posts swearing it's from planet X or something..

I'd bet if this pic were posted without the area 51 reference, we'd have many members swearing up and down that it was alien.

It's ALL perception.

ack!

Personally I think it looks like that new UAV I saw on Future Weapons.
That baby rocks! I want one in 2018 when it goes live!