In Some Nations, People Look to Obama as President of the World, page 2
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reply posted on 8-11-2008 @ 03:35 PM by Buck Division
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Speaking at a joint news conference with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in Moscow, the 72-year-old media tycoon also said Obama's election to the White House had been "hailed by world public opinion as the arrival of a messiah."


Good find. This is pretty disgustingly gushing, for sure.

You are more than 50% right, but not entirely IMO -- he was only "compared" to the messiah and not actually identified as such. But your point is well taken. It is over-the-top.

Quite on topic.


reply posted on 9-11-2008 @ 12:17 PM by GamerGal
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The claim made by every Republican is people only voted for Obama because he's black. That means the only reason people voted for McCain is because he's not black. And when you say this the GOP freak out claiming that's not true, but its still true that people only voted for Obama because he's black. Also, the only people to call him Messiah are Republicans when trying to smear him.


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 07:06 PM by centurion1211
Originally posted by GamerGal
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So what did the Dems pass that caused this economy mess?


No comment on the prejudice issue? I'll take that as tacit admission on your part.

To answer your question, democrat congresses in the Carter years and after buying votes by passing legislation making it too easy to get home loans for people that in no way should have qualified.

Check this out, there's blame to go around on both sides, but most recently (in 2005) the Republicans tried to rein it in and the democrats stopped them. Sorry, to tell you this, but your dems actually do make mistakes from time to time.

article

My bolding and underlining for emphasis.

In 2005, Congress rejected a Republican-sponsored bill aimed at curbing risky investments by mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, thanks to resistance from mostly Democrats. It was the latest in a string of unsuccessful attempts to rein in the two agencies. In this case, Congress ignored Greenspan's warning about the financial risks Fannie and Freddie were taking on.

The agencies were designed to expand homeownership by injecting money into the home mortgage market and encouraging banks to lend more. They buy loans from banks and guarantee them, holding some in their portfolios and selling others as mortgage-backed securities.

With implicit government backing, Fannie and Freddie have been able to borrow money at below-market rates. In recent years, the companies borrowed to buy billions' worth of complex mortgage-backed securities. The investments earned big returns. Fannie and Freddie's stock soared. Their executives were paid tens of millions of dollars.

Republicans sought to reduce the size of the companies' portfolios, arguing they were too risky.

Then the housing bubble burst. Fannie and Freddie didn't cause the financial meltdown, but they fueled it by becoming one of the biggest purchasers of toxic mortgage products, says Harvard economist Kenneth Rogoff.

"There was tremendous coddling of Fannie and Freddie in the face of a lot of evidence that they really weren't helping homeowners all that much," Rogoff says. "I think it was very, very clear what was coming, and that they were a huge, huge risk to the American financial system. … It really was criminal neglect."

Fannie and Freddie spent $175 million on lobbying in the last decade, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. The companies' employees and PACs gave nearly $5 million in contributions since 1989, by the center's count.

Until they were taken over, Fannie had 13 lobbying firms on its payroll this year; Freddie had 33. Both packed their boards with politically connected people such as Democrat Rahm Emanuel, a former Clinton aide who joined Freddie's board in 2000 before he became a congressman.


And look who shows up as a key player in the mess at the end of this quote - democrat rahm emmanuel, obama's new WH chief of staff.

[edit on 11/10/2008 by centurion1211]


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 08:24 PM by PowerSlave
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The claim made by every Republican is people only voted for Obama because he's black. That means the only reason people voted for McCain is because he's not black. And when you say this the GOP freak out claiming that's not true, but its still true that people only voted for Obama because he's black. Also, the only people to call him Messiah are Republicans when trying to smear him.


Wow!

Race issues much?
I don't think it was even mentioned until you came along.

I think what these "republicans" you mention actually say is that the black vote went to Obama because he is black. Not everyone who voted for him. Whether that is true or not is up for debate. Although I have seen and heard many black people say this. Even Colin Powell said after the election "He's a great man, and he's african american" answering why he voted for Obama, after the election.

As for the only people calling him messiah are disgruntled republicans. Well this thread makes your claim false. If you even read any of it.

Personally I think all of this world hype can only be bad for Obama. All it does is build up impossible expectations.


reply posted on 11-11-2008 @ 08:36 AM by GamerGal
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Except the black vote ALWAYS goes to the Democrats! It had nothing to do with Obama's race. How can you ignore decades of the black community voting majority wise to the Democrats and claim this is the first time they voted for a Democrat because he is black? Also, still no links to Democrats calling Obama the Messiah, just more Republicans calling him that.
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