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Originally posted by paxnatus
The last time I looked Hawaii was a state. If their health care plan failed after just 7 months why does Obama believe government mandated health care for our country will succeed? [edit on 6-11-2008 by paxnatus]
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by paxnatus
The last time I looked Hawaii was a state. If their health care plan failed after just 7 months why does Obama believe government mandated health care for our country will succeed? [edit on 6-11-2008 by paxnatus]
You know democracy doesn't always work either. Should we give it up after it fails?
Secondly, Hawaii may be a state, but it's a completely different animal. For example, most people can't even afford to own a house there. Lots of people live with others which are not family just because.
Also, if you are not fromthe island, don't expect to start a business in Hawaii either. Oh did I mention beat up Howlie day?
Anyway... the net of what I'm trying to say is that you can't assume that the plan Hawaii tried and failed would be the same plan as Obamas, you can't even assume that if it was, that it would fail nationally.
The world is much more complex than that.
Originally posted by paxnatus
If a state cannot manage universal health care how is a country going to?
To quote you "The world is much more complex than that"
According to LA Times this is why reform of national health care fails.
Originally posted by Velvet Death
You better eat your pie now before he has a chance to get a slice. Invest in barter items.
You know democracy doesn't always work either. Should we give it up after it fails?
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by paxnatus
If a state cannot manage universal health care how is a country going to?
To quote you "The world is much more complex than that"
According to LA Times this is why reform of national health care fails.
The same way that an ant hill made of 2Million ants functions better than an ant hill made of 2Thousand ants.
If you take a look at the principles of emergence and organized complexity you will find that its not as simple as the size being a factor. The overall higher level behaviors of a system do change depending on the amount of elements in the system, but not on a linear scale.
Sometimes things which don't work on the micro level work perfectly on the macro level, and vice versa.
Once again.. it's just not that simple.
[edit on 6-11-2008 by HunkaHunka]
Originally posted by mentus modulaous
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Originally posted by Nohup
The U.S. has a very complicated and bureaucratic government that makes it very hard for big changes to be made. So I'm not worried about it either way.