posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 11:56 AM
reply to post by budski
From the Wiki link sited : The plot itself may have been occasioned by the realisation by Protestant authorities and Catholic recusants that
the Kingdom of Spain was in far too much debt and fighting too many wars to assist Catholics in Britain. Any possibility of toleration by Great
Britain was removed at the Hampton Court conference in 1604 when King James I attacked both extreme Puritans and Catholics. The plotters realised that
no outside help would be forthcoming unless they took action themselves
Sounds like a politcal conspiracy to supress the rights of belief to me, which inspired Fawkes and his people to act. Which is and is not religion.
Yes, they wished religous freedom, but that is different than 'religion' its self. One way is people expressing and fighting tyranical thoughts.
The way you seem to mean it is that 'God' told them to and that Sir/madam is a totally different point.
With the advent of religous freedom people have the right to believe anything they want...including the belief of nothing at all. That should be
considered a win for everyone.
What I'd like to see is people standing up for the people who's beliefs (be they religous, scientific or whatever) counter their own. Would an
Athiest stand up for my right to believe in God...as much as I would stand up for theirs not to believe in anything?
I think it is when we allow ourselves to be segregated into lables actions such as Fawkes become needed. The idea that it's ok if the goverment
persecutes the other guy, because he doesn't believe the way I do, when true tyranny happens.
Hundreds of Christians, Athiests, Agnostics, and everything under the sun watched as Jewish human beings were dragged away in Nazi Germany, and most
did nothing...it wasn't them. Divided they fell into tyranny. Only by standing together and speaking in one voice to say that all have the right to
live and believe do we supress the opressors. It is when peoples beliefs impede other's rights, and lives we should take action against them.
If we look at Fawkes in that light, you can't help but admire what he tried to do...he and his people wanted freedom...don't we all.