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reply posted on 4-4-2004 @ 05:54 AM by Muaddib
Revolution....ya....like that is going to solve anything.

We got too many socialists disguising as "liberals" imo.

Now, I am not saying all liberals are, but whoever talks about a "revolution".....

Lets see what communism is.


In modern usage, the term Communism (written with a capital C) is applied to the movement that aims to overthrow the capitalist order by revolutionary means and to establish a classless society in which all goods will be socially owned.


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Revolutions lead to "war" and "civil unrest" in a country, and quite frankly it is the least we need in our country, but it is exactly what happened to our caribbean neighbor known as Cuba.

Cuba was as advanced as the US was, Cuba was at its prime before Castro began talking about a revolution that would change everything. People did not feel they had enough and wanted more, but people back then had as much or more than most of the US at that time. Noone was starving and all households had tvs, people could own cars, land and other properties.

But Castro promised the people that they would get more, and everything will be given in equal amounts to everyone... At the end when he was put in power people began to see what he was, he kept the best things for himself since he is "the state," but his socialist ideals had captivated the people so much that many of them were blinded for a long time.

Now everyone knows what he really is, and who helped start it all.

This same group has won a new country in a different way, making it change into a new system which was never in power before. Slowly we will see as Spain will fall under its new socialist party.
I do hope that the Spaniards see their mistake before is too late and can change back to the conservative party they had.

Socialism and communism look great in paper, but they can not be introduced in a world where leaders can be corrupted, this has been happening, and still happens, in all countries that are "socialists and or communists."

Countries need a way to "check and balance" government, so that noone will ever have "absolute power". Communism and socialism make sure that everything is given out through the state, people in power, not letting people have personnal property. Everything is actually property of the state, and if you get too much, the government takes it away because "everyone must have the same amount of things."


reply posted on 4-4-2004 @ 10:41 AM by John Nada
Originally posted by Amuk
Let me see if I have this right anyone who wants change even if it takes a revolution is a communist?

If we are tired of the government taking away our rights, giving the green light to warrentless searches, taxing us to death, trying to control what we do and even who the hell we sleep with then WE are communists?

I was killing communists before you were born most likely and the ones in office now are looking awful familar

[Edited on 4-4-2004 by Amuk]


Thank you, you beat me to it.

So let me get this straight, if we don't agree with you we're...COMMUNISTS!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh my, you don't sink lower than that.

Revolution does not = communism, there have been revolutions to over throw communism you know? This is ignorance to the point of offensive.

"Countries need a way to "check and balance" government, so that noone will ever have "absolute power""

If communism is idealistic then what is this? This is not possible because you have given the government the RIGHT to keep secrets, whether it be war secrets, inside secrets e.t.c. Because of this how do WE get to decide what is a true secret and what is a LIE they want to keep secret? We don't!!!
This is why this could not work, and because of this is why ALL governments, no matter what ideals, will become corrupt.

Eventually revolution is the only action left to take back what has been stolen from you, to put back your actual ideals. Eventually they will become corrupt again, then it is time to strike back once more.
Shouldn't this be the duty of everyone that truly loves their country and wants it to be un-corrupt?

[Edited on 4-4-2004 by John Nada]
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