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I don't even know why I try. Its clear most of you will never take off your tin-foil hats.
Conspiracy theories are just ways for the average person to pretend like they have no role in society's failures. No wonder they're the refuge of kooks.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Here's my personal opinion:
If our political candidates were really predetermined, then wouldn't Hillary have won???
She's the one who is married to Bill Clinton and has all these connections.
I don't buy that Obama was a predetermined candidate because it would have made much more sense for the NWO to put Hillary in.
Everyone here is twisting that into being some sort of slavery thing that Obama has got going but I personally am kind of excited to be doing something for my country, rather than have to sit around complaining about Bush all the time.
WE ELECTED HIM
And by us electing Barack Obama, we have proven that we can learn from our mistakes.
Saying that there are no conspiracies also implies that our world and society is ab solvent of absolutely any illegality, lawlessness or wrongdoing and/or secrecy.
A conspiracy theory attributes the ultimate cause of an event or chain of events (usually political, social or historical events), or the concealment of such causes from public knowledge, to a secret and often deceptive plot by a group of powerful or influential people or organizations. Many conspiracy theories state that major events in history have been dominated by conspirators who manipulate political happenings from behind the scenes.
Originally posted by pjslug
reply to post by sweatmonicaIdo
You're absolutely right and it's nice to hear a fresh perspective which is quite accurate. I completely admit, this site originally brainwashed me into believing many of these conspiracy theories. What woke me up from it was realizing that you could never tie all the pieces together. They were just random bits of world domination ideas. And one of the main flaws in the NWO conspiracy is that if the rich were enslaving the poor and the poor keep getting poorer, how will they have any money left to keep making the rich richer? And if the rich had some diabolical scheme to enslave the poor, why would the rich want to give up all their material possessions for some type of fascist leadership? It just doesn't make sense.
There are many unanswered dilemmas to this day, the two biggest in my mind being 9/11 and UFOs. 9/11 was, at the very least, the result of severe negligence. UFOs still remain a phenomena that I don't believe we may ever have an answer to. We do know the government spends hundreds of billions a year on black budget projects, though.
Barack Obama is neither a dilemma or a conspiracy... he's a symbol of America's desire for change and only time will tell if he is the right person for the job or not. And those of you who have said I'm an Obama maniac, I was for Ron Paul up until a few days before the election, and I cast my vote for the Libertarian party a month ago as a substitute. So please, spare me the accusations. Only after hearing Ron Paul's conversation with Alex Jones was I really glad that the cards fell where they did.
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
There is definitely an untold story behind 9/11, but it was NOT part of some larger agenda at world domination. I can't even begin to explain why such a theory is false.
I do believe UFOs do have some mystery element to it and that the government does indeed know more than it is letting on. But it is not part of an attempt to subvert the American people.
Originally posted by pjslug
Please do explain about why you think the 9/11 theories are false. There are many. Some are absurd, some are quite plausible.
With regards to the UFO mysteries, I have to disagree with you there. There has to be an attempt to subvert not just the American people, but the world in general, and I think it comes from somewhere higher like the Vatican. There are archaeological remnants that have not been disclosed to the public that may share some insight to our past. And just the same, there have been hundreds of high-clearance government officials (and thousands in general) that have cited specific information that is being withheld from us. I'm not saying all are credible (i.e. Clifford Stone leaves me very dubious) but they can't all be lying. If underground installations do exist where this type of technology is being worked on, that is a deliberate withholding of information from the public that conceals our very place in the universe... and I could think of no single, greater concealment than that.
And what about the inventors with new, technological breakthroughs (i.e. Stan Meyer) that have been killed?
I think there are many secretive factions of the government that have other agendas, such as keeping the public repressed. The church has done that for thousands of years, so it is not a new concept. The wealthy have always been in control and work alongside the governments. I just don't happen to agree with crazy, world domination conspiracies, but I definitely think that some areas of government withhold critical information from the people that could change the world.