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reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 01:04 PM by azzllin

This is surreal I promise you, I had a feeling she was a little shy on knowledge when i saw a thread on her IQ, but seriously? I think that would have been a problem if she had become president after something went wrong with McCain.

Sure she would have advisor's to put her right, but that should never have been allowed to happen, she should never have even been considered for the job in the first place, a lot of people wanted to vote for McCain because they thought she was EYE CANDY? I think some people need to visit the optician, as well as some instruction on Politics, you cant decide a countries future because she looks good, thats even worse, some folk have no excuses i swear.

And she needs to go back to school, how can someone like this get a job as Governor? is she still the Governor? or did she resign to run for VP?

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 01:15 PM by ProfEmeritus

You know, I was really hoping that after the election, all of the hatred and vitriol would cease, but I guess that was expecting too much of ATS. The democrats got their candidate, but it doesn't seem to be enough. Can't you leave Sarah Palin alone? I don't hear you making comments about Obama saying that there are 57 states in the US, or Biden thinking that FDR was president in 1929, or that he went on TV, all statements as ridiculous as her alleged statement.
All that this hatred does is set the tone for four more years where people don't unite, and try to solve the problems this country has. This hatred inside of you that is bubbling out, ensures that this nation will continue to fight amongst ourselves, and that nothing positive will be accomplished. Is THAT what you REALLY want?

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 01:35 PM by spacedoubt

Wow,

All the sudden Fox News is the bastion of truth!

Admit it, it's because now they are saying what you want to hear.
Instead of parroting Carl Cameron, who is parroting an "unnamed source".
Perhaps some of you could deny ignorance, and figure out who the source may be?

I'm thinking that someone is trying to save their job..

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 05:05 PM by Sonya610

Originally posted by azzllinAnd she needs to go back to school, how can someone like this get a job as Governor? is she still the Governor? or did she resign to run for VP?

You are saying SHE needs to go back to school? And you have no clue if she is still govenor? Do you even watch the news? OF COURSE she is still govenor, just as McCain is still a Senator. They do not give up their offices to run.

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 06:27 PM by ACEMANN

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
reply to post by lee anoma

She wasn't bro, she was acting, screwing McCain over

I'll back it up in the future i'm so sure of it... she is one serious witch and... I don't blame her either

I remember reading in the first week how his staff wanted her to tow Mccains line and she had issue with that then a few days later "agreed to conform"

They tried to silence her, because of stance on abortion and g-d and other true conservative issues

and I live around the corner from McCain, I drink with these guys, they are sexist and I am certain they all told her to play a game

and LOL she sure did...

If people will believe she is THAT dumb and a person can't throw a few tantrums on purpose...fine, but I know better, I know a Smart womans malice, i'm divorced!!!!!

The Girl is Crafty Like Ice is Cold

This is EXACTLY what I have been thinking. For days I have been stumped as to why she had been so "moronic" after her initial appearance. Think about it:

When she walked out on that stage - and for the next few days, weeks, etc, the GOP was only talking about "SARAH!!" Everyone and I mean EVERYONE forgot about McCain. Its was only SARAH...

Then she got dumb. Had horrible interviews, etc. This stumped me: everything I had read & seen about her - and I had read & seen a lot - did NOT match up to the woman I was watching. Her winking and "hocky mom" stuff got old. How the F could a woman who fought tooth-and-nail to to get the Alaskan Gov. position stoop to winks and corny catch phrases AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL?? It didn't make sense. You might be able to get away with that in your home state - but you would have to be a serious "dee-da-dee" to think you could win OVER 50% of the population with that sh&t. I guess I'm not the only one who thought something was up.

And NO - I am not a sobbing McCain supporter. I am not surprised he lost. But what I am surprised at is that it seems his VP pick cost him the Presidency - on purpose.

great thread - this IS a conspiracy site right??

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reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 06:40 PM by ACEMANN

BTW - that video just screams "thrown to the dogs"

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 06:42 PM by Sonya610

Originally posted by ACEMANN But what I am surprised at is that it seems his VP pick cost him the Presidency - on purpose.

She did NOT cost him the presidency. I don't believe anyone that liked McCain and planned to vote for him changed their mind and switched because they did NOT like her.

She was a heck of a lot more likeable than McCain is. I think the economy going down the drain hurt them badly. I do not believe she would intentionally make herself look stupid to get even with McCain, no way. I think the media just did what they could to show her as stupid, and that had an effect.

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 08:34 PM by xpert11

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Look after her comment about seeing Russia from where she lives even Fox news couldn't sugar coat her forever . Never the less this news clip does represent the blame game more then any post election post mortem .

To put it politely Palin was to insular and right wing even by American standards . McCain selection of Palin was a tactical victory that turned out to be a strategic defeat . McCain faced a choice he could either continue to appeal to moderates that he won over during the primary's or bring his party core supporter base to life . It was impossible for McCain to do both because the Republican supporter core supporter base has become disconnected with the rest of America .

Although I don't have any figures but I would wager that Palin wouldn't have appealed to urban votes outside of the likes of Texas . It would be like a rural(SP?) Kiwi farmer taking his rifle and campaigning amongst Latte drinkers in Auckland . It just wouldn't go down to well end of story .

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:04 PM by Anonymous ATS

reply to post by xpert11

I wonder what she saw or heard that she might spill? She has no party loyalty. She made herself governor by exposing corruption in her wn party in Alaska. She needed to be thoroughly discredited before she might talk. The weapon of choice is FOX news.

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:05 PM by spacedoubt

reply to post by xpert11

Maybe so, xpert11.
But I took the Russia comment as nothing more than that it would serve to keep one mindful of a country that not so long ago, was considered enemy number one. And That when our airspace is crossed, that's where it happens.

But yes, it did expose her naivete, when dealing with a press that was well prepared to make fools of anyone who was not glazed-over with Obamaphilia.
Katie Couric had a field day with that one, and Sarah let her do it.

And now, Carl Cameron, who is NOT my favorite reporter (it's a Ron Paul thing)
Pulls this crap..

Palin's response:
That's kind of a small, evidently bitter type of person who would anonymously charge something foolish like that that I perhaps didn't know an answer to a question. So until I know who -- who is talking about it, I won't have a comment on false allegations.

Now that's a smart response, she's learning.

Here is what I really think.

News Corp. has posted some nasty losses this quarter.
And we know that "news" in it's current incarnation, is merely a product, looking for a niche. Bush, Fox's moneymaker for the last 8 years, is pretty much a non-entity now. Fox news is looking to expand it's viewer base, and will begin pimping itself to a more moderate crowd. It's a survival tactic.

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:34 PM by BlackOps719

There is no way this woman will in any way be a potential candidate for the election in 2012.

She has done more to harm John Mccain's campaign this year than anyone. The neocons are now focusing all of their wrath upon her, yes she is not very bright but she was set up as the obvious fall guy for an angry crowd that is unhappy about the election results.

She was constantly attacked and made fun of during this campaign, and rightly so. The woman was so dense she actually went on SNL to make fun of herself, somehow believing that the world was laughing with her.

They were laughing AT her, and her name will forever be a bad joke or a Trivial Pursuit question....probably something to do with "lipstick on a pig".

I know wherever Dan Quayle is he must be relieved because maybe now he will not go down in history as the dumbest VP candidate of all time.

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:38 PM by Xeven

I think we can be thankful that MCain lost. He could not even manage a campaign. As more details come out it is amazing what a cluster frak his campaign was. Imagine if he had become president how bad it would have gotten. Maybe worse than Bush. If he cannot choose good people to run a campaign, and then lead them properly. How could he possibly choose an administration and run America.

Not.

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reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:38 PM by ProfEmeritus

reply to post by spacedoubt

Spacedoubt, you're on the right track about Fox. It's actually, though, a little more transparent than that:
gawker.com...

Conservative media mogul Rupert Murdoch, under the influence of young wife Wendi Deng, is now a huge Obama fan and rumored embarrassed by the boorish partisanship of O'Reilly and Fox News chief Roger Ailes.

and:
gawker.com...

When News Corp. chairman Rupert Murdoch decided to sit down for a rare, on-camera interview, it was of course with two reporters from his own media empire, Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher of the Wall Street Journal. In this clip from the Journal's D conference in Carlsbad, California, Murdoch explains how he thinks the Journal and Times will be competing aggressively with one another on all stories — business, political or otherwise — within just "a few months." He also rants about how it's "ridiculous" that an average of 8.3 editors looks at a typical WSJ story, inevitable expanding it beyond reason. "People don't have time for it — there's not a story that you can't get all the facts in (within) half the space." Also: Murdoch confirms he was involved in the Post's decision to switch its allegiance from Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama.

Money, (and the BIG BOSS,of course) still speak louder than words. Ah, the FREE press in America....or as that great philosopher Yakov Smirnoff says:
"American, vot a Country"

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:45 PM by xpert11

Originally posted by spacedoubt
But I took the Russia comment as nothing more than that it would serve to keep one mindful of a country that not so long ago, was considered enemy number one.

Fair point . I do find it hard to fathom her wording in that context . Unfortunately Palin reinforced much of the worlds impression or stereotypes of Americans. That is about all I can say without going off topic I have given my views on Russia elsewhere on ATS .

But yes, it did expose her naivete, when dealing with a press that was well prepared to make fools of anyone who was not glazed-over with Obamaphilia.

I can understand where your coming from the media has acted like a lynch mob during aspects of the NZ election campaign .
How could Palin have that kind of naivety after serving in any kind of political position little alone governor ?
Anybody who has held any kind of political office has en counted the workings of the media for the lack of a better description .

So until I know who -- who is talking about it, I won't have a comment on false allegations.

Well I cant say for sure that she made that specific comment about Africa . IMO given her comment about Russia it is likely that she made such a comment .

Now that's a smart response, she's learning.

To be polite once again I would say that you are being generous there . Unless Palin makes an effort to portray herself as being more moderate for a 2012 run she will only ever appeal to a relatively small fraction of voters in the US . Palin may be a good or great governor but she clearly isnt fit for the wider stage .

The long short of it all just about every MSM outlet has an agenda its just that Fox News does less do hide this fact then most outlets . The longer the Republican looks to the era Reagan era for solutions and care more about what someone does in the bedroom then real issues the longer they will be in the wildness .

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:49 PM by MissApe

McCain lost bec Palin is weak and dumb

Is McCain repenting now, and will Alaska collapse?

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:53 PM by Vault-D

Originally posted by Crakeur
according to a new article coming out from Time (I think)... [snip]

I think you're referring to the Newsweek election 'book.' There are six chapters you can link from their front page...you can read the introduction right here. As you say, it's got a ton of good, new info and definitely worth a read.

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 10:17 PM by xpert11

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Clearly I'm not a Palin fan but in fairness party loyalty is not the same thing same thing as being complacent in corruption or illegal practices . I'm not sure if Palin has actually genuinely cracked down on corruption in her home state or she has just taken token actions to suit her election plank . As I noted above the fact she may be a good governor doesnt mean she would make a suitable VP . IMO there is no conspiracy here rather just a set of circumstances that I have already outlined in this thread . I hesitate to call her a bad candidate because of the impossible situation the McCain camp found themselves in .

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reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 11:02 PM by whaaa

God it's good to see the GOP tearing itself apart. Perhaps it can get back to it's original nonneocon roots and be a force for moderation instead of the mean spirited, ugly, lying manipulative, war mongering, greedy party of rich old white men.

Palin was a calculated risk that blew up in their faces, just like their campaign of hate. That style of campaigning is obsolete and the GOP had better run on true Conservative values or they will splinter into fragments of pretend Conservatives, and one issue yahoos with no real political center.

Palin was a pawn and will be known/shown as a clownish, stupid, piece of political garbage by her own party.

If she really would have had any savy at all, she would have told the GOP to go .......... ..........

She will not rise from the ashes like a Phoenix; and become a political force. She has no support and will just remain a parody of herself and fade into obscurity like Spiro Agnew, Nixon's VP. Who remembers Spiro?
Before he died, he was selling insurance.

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reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 11:06 PM by baseball101

yea she also couldn't name the countries of north america... supposedly

reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 11:16 PM by Iblis Smiley

Originally posted by spacedoubt

But yes, it did expose her naivete, when dealing with a press that was well prepared to make fools of anyone who was not glazed-over with Obamaphilia.

I am sorry but I do not understand how you can relate this in any way to Obama or love for him or whatever. The woman could not answer SIMPLE questions all on her own. She could not name ONE periodical. NOT ONE! That makes it seem like she has no idea what one is.

Was that really an Obamaphilial question? That almighty trick, gotcha, we love Obama so we are gonna try hard to make you look stupid by asking what magazines or newspapers you read? Really?

I understand wanting to defend her, I guess. I also understand believing the press was in it for Obama. Palin, however, was given two softball interviews and was too stupid for them. It is that simple.

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