The guy isn't even inaugurated yet so what the hell do you want to see him do? Jeez--- you people whine for nothing whatsoever.

Before I put my 2 cents in- I need to make a couple items known. First off, I think both candidates are crooks, plain and simple. I am also not a bible thumping jackass with delusions of self grandeur, or of end of the world schemes.

But in the back of my mind- a little voice keeps hinting at 'The Beast'. And when that tiny little voice wont shut up, and it's a nagging thought right at the absolute back of my brain... I tend to listen. because the sucker's usually right.

If I am wrong, someone just mail me some nice happy pills. I'll go quietly to a nap. But... if I am right.............

So, if you're sitting there knowing you cant stand him, give the thought a good examination. There's a good valid reason why you don't like him, it's just buried.

A lot of the anti-Bush crowd went through the same thing in 2000. They were called sore losers and were basically told to leave the country if they didn't like it. In 2004 it was even worse, they were called unpatriotic, since not supporting the president was somehow not supporting the troops and aiding the terrorists.

It pretty much goes with the territory I guess no manner who wins.

Well i would like to see him do something. I really haven't seen a reason to give him the benefit of the doubt. Hillary Clinton i disliked but with her i would have given her a shot. I have enough faith in her, she has a successful background.

but with Obama, i am worried he is leading a lot of people down the wrong path. a lot of people that do not even know it. he got the children. They don't know what is going on. Only a very small portion of the younger voters have a clue what they are voting for and Obama extorted that. They don't even know we are having a problem right now, or what the problem is. they are clueless! As long as they get their allowance, and their check from daddy in the mail to pay their rent they don't have any worries in the world so they are jsut looking something fun to fallow. A thrill. They want to feel like they are smart and political. and its an easy task to say, i want change and We can do it! thats all you have to know to fallow Obama! Change and YOU CAN DO IT!

i know this for a fact because i am young. I am 21. and i was on the Obama bandwagon until i took a step back and decided to really understand who i was voting for and why. I gave him his initial chance and i backed off. I will still support the guy if he comes out and starts doing some positive things, but i will still have my reasons to keep my eyes open when i sleep with this guy.

DONT FEEL GUILTY!
He's another big $$$ puppet........first Bush to get the REPubs to side with them, and now Obama to get the Dems to side with them........the same card being played just the back/front side.................

Originally posted by ghostlandseller
Well i would like to see him do something. I really haven't seen a reason to give him the benefit of the doubt. Hillary Clinton i disliked but with her i would have given her a shot. I have enough faith in her, she has a successful background.

but with Obama, i am worried he is leading a lot of people down the wrong path. a lot of people that do not even know it. he got the children. They don't know what is going on. Only a very small portion of the younger voters have a clue what they are voting for and Obama extorted that. They don't even know we are having a problem right now, or what the problem is. they are clueless! As long as they get their allowance, and their check from daddy in the mail to pay their rent they don't have any worries in the world so they are jsut looking something fun to fallow. A thrill. They want to feel like they are smart and political. and its an easy task to say, i want change and We can do it! thats all you have to know to fallow Obama! Change and YOU CAN DO IT!

i know this for a fact because i am young. I am 21. and i was on the Obama bandwagon until i took a step back and decided to really understand who i was voting for and why. I gave him his initial chance and i backed off. I will still support the guy if he comes out and starts doing some positive things, but i will still have my reasons to keep my eyes open when i sleep with this guy.

This proves that all you can do is make outrageous generalization, belittle your fellow Americans, and think that everyone should only agree with you to consider themselves correct. Did it ever dawn on you [and your type] that people voted for the President because they actually read and agreed with his policies? Stop whining like a baby and do something for the world, or your country at-least.

One thing with Obama to keep in mind. As far as the office of President goes he hasn't really done anything yet except appoint 1 cabinet member. He hasn't even been sworn in yet.

You, me or anyone else can have doubts about him. However, given that he isn't in office yet he hasn't had a chance to really do anything right or wrong. So, it really just boils down to how you feel about him vs how others feel at the moment.

Yup - there are those out in the world and here on ATS that will basically shout you down, insult you, etc if you express any doubts about the man for any reason.

Its like that line from "Cool Hand Luke" - "There are some people you just can't reach."

Maybe being against some of his policies will be more accepted once he's in for awhile.

In the meantime, yes, I've seen what you are talking about. Some will debate what they like vs. what you don't and respect your opinion. Others only want to hear veiws that agree with theirs.

Originally posted by -zeropoint-
Did it ever dawn on you [and your type] that people voted for the President because they actually read and agreed with his policies? Stop whining like a baby and do something for the world, or your country at-least.

Actually the population that voted for Obama was majority poor, the unemployed and the ones suffering the most in what 8 years has done to our nations economy.

People vote for hope.

But I am a down to earth person and a realistic one.

Is going to take a lot of things that people doesn't want, to fix this nation's government and economy.

To fix the nation government and the economy we need a revolution and the people to do that because our system of government have been hijacked.

And that is no going to happen because we think is easier to appoint heroes like presidential candidates to do that for us.

Originally posted by Mozzy
it's because obama being president stands for what a lot of this site stands for. it's about revolution and the fact that a simple man can make it that far.

why does that count for more than when previous presidents were elected after being farmers? you're right it doesn't it's stupid. but the point is people recognize an upheavel when they see one, and this "appears" to be one.

i would never vote for either of those AHs in a million years, no one with a brain would. i just saw a lady on tv saying " i voted for mc cain but i didn't vote because of race, i made a philosophical decision based on the TWO candidates."

and she was the "wise" person on the news interview. it's just sick, that lady was twice as old as i am and doesn't have a friggin clue.

You just summed up the liberals attitude quite nicely. Thank you.
If you don't agree with them you are an ignorant out of touch racists slob.

If you're going into Pro-Obama threads trying to incite debates just for the mere reason you disagree with Pro-Obama users, then yeah you should be made to feel guilty for hating Obama. I'm sorry, but theres nothing that will get solved by trying to argue semantics of this man between each other on the internet, especially when most of the anti-Obama people lately only have "we're dead, he's the anti-christ, its all over" to say.

If its the opposite, what I just said goes the same the other way. And don't let it get to you, like others have said.

But let's seriously wait to see what he actually does in office before we throw him under the bus? That's the biggest mistake we could make, condemning this man before he even get inaugurated. I feel most of this aura of conspiracy is just left over from how utterly disastrous the Bush Administration was. Some people just can't trust the government no matter who's at head anymore. I came of age during 8 years of Bush's terms, that's something that I will always remember and take with me through he rest of my life. I know there are millions more in my generation across the world who feel the same.

Like I've said in other threads, in the modern political environment you have to play the game a bit. People you have to know. Statements that need to be said. JFK got the help of the mafia to get elected, how many threads do you think would there be on this website if that election was flipped with this election? I haven't put my entire faith in Obama but I've read enough about him to know we can't automatically condemn the guy. He knows what he's doing, and he's prepared himself.