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Originally posted by wayno
People struggling for gay rights in the U.S.A against a religious/conservative populace seem to be digging themselves into a deeper hole as of late. Their opposition also appears to be at the ready with cement trucks to make that hole permanent.
Gay marriage does effect me. whether you want to realize it or not. see when the minority wishes to impose their beliefs on the majority that is violating the rights of the majority.
Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
reply to post by Mercenary2007
I only read the beginning of your post just so you know. I never said marriage is a right in the equal rights clauses. I told you what the legality is, expressed in the constitution, of denying a right or making a law against a right that has been deemed a right in another state. Again, this is your lack of understanding that complicates the issue, which I can not help or fix.
Gay marriage does not force you to do anything. Opposing gay marriage forces gays to live by your moral standards, the two are completely different. One lawfully affects a group and their families, the other does not.
See here's where your logic fails you.
1. states cannot tell other states what their laws should be. that would be like my state telling your state since we decided that our minimum wage is X above the federal minimum wage you have to do the same. it doesn't work that way!
"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
Clause 1: The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States."
"This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding."
Gay marriage does not force you to do anything.
I suggest, since you aren't in this country, you have a seat and watch the fireworks in comfort. It will be spectacular to witness, if disastrous for us.
I said and showed you were the constitution expresses that no state can ignore civil agreements made in other states, and it also causes a contradiction that the constitution does not allow.
Sure it does, you are asking a religious institution to redefine what marriage is.
Gay people aren't going to go away but eventually the people trying to make them go away will give up
That I can definitely live with, but I’m tired of this useless back and forth with you. I do not agree with you, I think you are wrong, no matter how many times you state your opinion or put mine down based on your opinion on of how events might come to pass.