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Originally posted by Simplynoone
reply to post by doctorex
[This takes place 1000 years after the return of Christ, not before.]
I was not talking about the Armegeddon war ..
That is the FINAL BATTLE Of all time *Which happens at the end of the thousand years ..
The war of Ezek 39
That I believe starts the trib .
Eze 39:2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel:
Notice it says he leaves a sixth part of them (this cant be the Armegeddon war because Gog is completely DESTROYED then ..no sixth part left ..(He is saving the sixth part of them for the very last Armegeddon war after the thousand years)
I used to think this war was Armgeddon too until I started seeing some things that made me see differently ..
Originally posted by Simplynoone
So Doc what will you do when you really do see an actual temple built ?
The Jews have been saying for years and years and years that there will be another Temple built ..Their torah predicts it (according to them) even ....
Originally posted by SirPaulMuaddib_2
Regarding the two main prophecies
1) Abomination of Desolation
2) End Time Apostasy
The mistake is in stating both are one and the same thing. They are two different end time events, not one event. The Desolation and Apostasy are not one and the same. Combining them leads to a morass of prophetic understandings.
Yes, the Temple = Church is some NT passages.
Thessalonians and Revelation do talk about an end time apostasy within the Church. This has happened, this is a part of history now.
Combining this passage with the Desolation prophecy which is a separate event that will happen physically leads to a wretched understanding of the TIMING of end time events. This will lead any who follow this time line into Great Tribulation, because they will have all the timing wrong.
Apostasy of Church - fulfilled in the 90's. This is history. The Laodicean Age is here.
Abomination of Desolation - this is future, the daily sacrifice will be restarted, and this is the pre-cursor for the Desolation event, which involves armies coming in, surrounding Jerusalem, desolating Jerusalem, halting sacrifice and desolating / desecrating alter.
Originally posted by SaintlyMic
The antichrist will first be revealed. Then he will come into power. Then he will demand worship, and he will demand servitude to him. Then the antichrist will behead many people who resist him. Then the antichrist will come to Jerusalem to sit in the Sacred Place and claim that he is God Almighty. THAT IS THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION: i.e.- The beast forcing his way into the Jewish Sacred Place or the Holiest of Holies.
It is our realization that the final half of Daniel’s 70th Week begins at the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION and its apparent, and perhaps murky identification with Feast of Tabernacles (or Feast of Booths or Nations or Feast of Ingathering; known as SUKKOT) at the literal Third Temple in Jerusalem
“Let no one deceive you by any means; for that day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple (Greek: naos-see below) of God, showing himself that he is God.”