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Must Listen: Ron Paul with Alex Jones 11/5/08

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posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 04:38 AM

Originally posted by oconnection
I think at times that Alex needs a nice vacation. I've listened to this guy for a long time and esp. lately he's needlessly been flipping out only hurting his credibility.

It get's worse.

The atypical normal day at the office of Alex "I'm-gonna-slam-your-head-onto-concrete" Jones. Just listen to this whackjob:

He has no credibility.

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 04:53 AM
Where's your credibility? At least Jones, as eccentric and over-the-top as he may be, has a Congressman agreeing with him on the issues he's discussing. A NWO is not a completely unbelievable idea, especially considering the ever-increasing global networking, trading, loaning, etc. that have already provided the lubrication for the constitutional sodomy that lies in our future.

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 05:03 AM

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 05:22 AM
All I can say is - America had a chance to show the world that they are not dumb, naive and brainwashed sheep and elect Ron Paul.

What they did?

We all know what they did - they made good, honest, hard working people all around the world SLAVES of world corporate elite.

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 05:58 AM
Hi There,

Just listened to the fear-mongering of Alex Jones, wherein the same broadcasts, Ron Paul tempers the discussion with more sober argument. Let us not forget that a climate of fear is what makes Alex Jones, it's his industry, it's what brings in the money for him and his celebrity. In the 2nd broadcast he certainly allowed himself a vitriolic outburst of desperate pronouncements. I'm sorry, but this guy is believing too much in his own type of self-professed legendaryism. He believes in the bogeyman, and is too scared to believe it alone. He has done as much as the neo-cons to spread a message of fear, because he's addicted to it. He and his ilk are simply opposite sides of the same coin.

Don't get me wrong, I do not doubt that there are people, cabals and conclaves, seeking to manipulate the world to their own ends, and if allowed uncontested sway they would do severe damage, but they are not uncontested, and it isn't because of people like Jones that they aren't.

Barack Obama has tempered through his own pronouncements that the road ahead is not going to be easy, that what he is inheriting from Bush and the 'outgoing' administration, is a 'mess' of uncomparable proportions. It will not be 'fixed' overnight, nor over one term. The progress will be slow and painful, there is no placebo, and Obama has justifiably stated this.

As for the seemingly 'messianic' fervour displayed by many towards Obama, is to my mind, an outburst for the sense and joy of relief that Bush and the neo-cons have been consigned to a back page of history, merely to serve as a 'warning' to complacent trust in politicians. I believe in Obama's sense of social justice, because when you watch the speeches of his wife Michelle, you can see the ideas that flow between them. You can see where the cause of their belief for social justice arises, not just for any particular ethnic race, but for all Americans...and they are going to give him time, but will hold him to his word.

One thing is for certain, and I accept it without reservation. The world has to come together. It has to find ways to breakdown the fault lines that exist between nations and races, otherwise man will consign himself to inevitable continuations of wars and global social injustices. One world government is inevitable, we are moving in that direction in spite of ourselves, our technological progress and our social instinct are providing the impetus and the means to take us there. The only question is...on whose terms: ours or some private cabal's?

We, the people of the world have to participate in this process. We cannot allow ourselves to leave it to the machinations of others. We have to contest everything, we have to ensure that whatever global system is put in place, it is one that is by the people, for the people. It is a long way off, and in my lifetime, only small pieces of it will be slot into place, and then tweaked through historical struggle. It is the way we shape our futures, it is the way we re-shape our ideologies, it is the way we will develop a global conscience.

The internet conjoins us all, and is one of the first steps towards a globalised identity. Yet, as we interface and interact with each other globally, the first things we are more acutely aware of are the differences in culture, ideology and creed. The internet is a technology that allows us to interface without the need to have our hands ready on a gun as a means of instinctive response to those differences. The internet, overtime, will shape and adapt our national conscience to that of a global one...we will overcome our fears of our differences. We have to bring ourselves into that zone of comfortable trust with each other. Not out of some sychophancy towards some utopian socialist ideal, but simply out of social necessity...we cannot afford to continue to be indifferent to each other, or to each other's needs.

Barack Obama's electoral sweep to president-elect is a defining turning point, not just in American history, but world history, because people of all colours and creeds came together and spoke in one voice in a recognition that we are all, despite our differences, members of the same human race.

Alex Jones and his ilk are simply anachronisms from some kind of Mcarthy-esque-like era of 'fear and division', and I'm sick of them, and I'm sick of their paranoia. I have too much respect for myself and my own integrity to allow myself to be sullied by hateful ideologies of others spouting fear-bites and fear-spin. I will not allow myself to live the paranoid life, and I will contest the Jones' with an equal amount of determination as I will contest the Bush's of this world...I will not wear the shroud of doom. We are all better than this!

Best wishes

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 06:01 AM
reply to post by spacebagel

Please don't get me wrong, I owe a lot to Alex in his earlier years esp. for opening my eyes. He was one of the pieces of information that helped me see the layers of the entire scheme of things.

The problem that I see with his outbursts is this; Say a new listener is trying to digest this complete shift in world views and he goes off screaming like a crazy person I really feel it's going to be a huge turn off. In turn hurting his credibility and his shared world view. For example when he had the Zeitgeist movie author on I really felt he shot himself in foot there with his behavior. While his intentions may mean well he's harming the movement when he acts in such ways. We need calm rational people not people who are seemingly so extreme.

The good news is there is a flooded avenue of great sources floating around that give you great alternative information. Back in the day our options were more limited and much more underground. While I still listen to him and find a lot of what he reports good information I find at times I need take Alex in small doses or shots so to speak.

Now with in respect to your comments to Ron Paul, I couldn't disagree with you more sir. Ron Paul in my opinion is thew few sane, grounded, sound, truthful person who I can proudly say serves in the Congress. I voted for him this election and hope we have more people like him willing to stick there neck out for the ideals of freedom. With that said I strongly, respectfully disagree with you on that point.

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posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 06:03 AM
I usually share Alex Jones views, just not his stance on global warming.
I viewed the clips, and instantly realized why Jones is largely ignored by the general public and MSM media. Its really HIS VOICE. I had never heard him talk before, I just had frequented and I am sure it is totally unintentional by Alex.

I think he has the same frustrating problem as i have and probably many other people that do not even realize it. We hear our voices when we speak - inside our heads - DIFFERENTLY than they really come out of our mouths. I CRINGE when i hear myself speaking on tape.
Many times a slight, true and honest emotion i want to convey when speaking comes out exaggerated or sounds fake or arrogant, even though my feelings are true and positive. Sometimes when i dont even want to convey emotion and try to speak in a totally rational or even 'cold' way, my voice still transports almost random emotional undertones, that are picked up on tape or by a listener.

I really think this inhibits Jones' impact as a speaker. So Alex, if you read this by chance or a person that is close to him or works with him - they should suggest this to Alex:


(meant in the most respectful and supportive way.)

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posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 06:22 AM

Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar
All I can say is, by the beginning of January stock up on ammo, food, and supplies and I will meet you all out in the streets with a lot of other American Patriots.

If Ron Paul and Alex Jones are wrong and this does not come to pass then I will be grateful to them because their efforts will have helped and I will have some extra food if anyone wants to come over for dinner.

Assuming we get safely past 11/11 what could be in store for late January.

I disagree with Alex Jones, Tarpley, and others on the show. I see a possible "Shootout at the Bushehr Corral". That's right a cruise missile right down the pipe at the reactor in Bushehr. What could happen after that is anybody's guess.

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 06:37 AM
Wow that was a great interview cheers modern, S+F.

I'm with you amigo, got to trust Ron Paul all the way. To the point every time. The discussion is a dark one but it looks, smells and feels right.

I always thought these two would get along. I see them as compassionate, well informed men who are trying to warn us of the serpent's tightening coils.

After combining everything I have been researching and everything that has been happening, it does seem like the most logical explanation.

Ron Paul is right (as usual) the best way to prepare or help is too inform and educate the sheep.

What would be the best way to get a huge audience???????


posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 07:38 AM
I never thought I'd hear Alex Jones talking such fearmongering NONSENSE.

Drinking the blood of the innocent - most of 'us' (who's us anyway Alex???) will be arrested.

For someone who has - time and time again - called for the end to the Bush era, to now say these things is ridiculous.

One question - What proof have you of any of the things you're claiming Obama will do?!?!

One FINAL question(s) to Alex Jones:

Sir, after so much (deserved) anti-Bush propaganda, will you EVER be content with a decent, hard-working GROUNDED American leader as you have now?

Or, does your life, lifestyle - and livelihood - depend SOLELY on the paranoia that you and your fraternity are constantly - and wronfully in most cases - attacked for peddling? When you insinuate, Sir, that a guy who willingly accepts faces death threats DAILY, because he's trying to help so many people who you yourself 'fight' for in your profession, is somehow trying to dupe, short-change and CONTROl those people is beyond outlandish - it is nothing short of desperate fearmongering to sustain your presumably ailing career.

I buy into a LOT of what Alex Jones says and I applaud his insistance in not letting some issues go despite constant death threats, but this is just.....STUPID. Period.

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 08:48 AM

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posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 08:49 AM
I've seen a bit of A. Jones. I have to agree, he spreads fear. I did not vote for Obama, though neither do I fear him. Ron Paul, you had a good message, and you gave up. Now anyone that supported him is in a database. Obama will be facing an IMF/World Bank takeover of our economy. ---- Look at it this way, I make 100,000 a year. I pay out 50,000 a year on interest on my loans, which are 200,000. I overspend my income every year and have to borrow more money by another 30,000 ayear. How long can i keep doing this before someone says enough? ------just a little exercise. Anyway, there is one thing any possible conspiracy did not take into account.

What are they going to do when Blacks all over America and to some extent around the world, lift up there heads, their hearts, their spirit in hope and inspiration. If a black man can become leader of the free world, we can do anything? ( btw, I'm not black ) And they do. All those who felt they were hopelessly locked in the welfare system, all those unfairly arrested because they were black, all those persecuted by secret organizations, become inspired to......

We are all men and women of the USA. I say all those that believed they never had a chance have suddenly paid attention. Anyone notice the total voter turnout? All those that believe that they never had a chance will be inspired. Look to your hearts and be inspired. LIVE INSPIRED, not fear. It is a choice. What will you choose?


posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 09:04 AM
I love Alex Jones and Ron Paul, 2 great American patriots in my book! Sure AJ's voice is loud and angry at times but thats just his style. He's very informed about all the NWO stuff and obviously Ron Paul is too - he gets to see some of the inner workings. Nobody else has the balls to cover the real news like AJ. You simply will not see that stuff in the MSM. I guess his websites are already blocked in some parts of the UK. He's definitely on 'our' side, fighting the good fight. I used to think he was a kook years ago until I really started listening.. then things starting coming true. It's not like he's getting rich off of his videos, hell he even says to copy them and put them on the torrent sites & boobtube! IMO he's just trying to get the info out there and wake people up. They're now openly telling us what they're going to do.. it's time to pay attention and Prepare.

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 09:09 AM
Alex Jones is a fear mongering nut job. I listen to what the Anti-Obama people are saying, but not when they are screaming, praying, hoping for the Rapture like this man has been SELLING on his websites, radio shows, and whatever other merch he's got. And yes I listened to radio show, only because I like Ron Paul.

The very end of the broadcast is nothing but worship of the world elite, plain and simple. When you fear them they have won. "We don't ask for the people's loyalty, we only ask for their fear." ~ Adolf Hitler.

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 09:39 AM
IF a pic is worth 1000 words

What is this one saying?

I got this from [COLOR=Indigo]G35driver[/COLOR]. Over there folks are debating whether this is a photoshop or whether Paul would have made a better president vs Obama or Mccain....

What are your thoughts?

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 10:02 AM
Well, I'm an American, and there is only so much wool you can pull...
when the masses see.... somebody had better have a plan... or there is going to be a lot of dead public officials. this top down government will turn bloody really fast, and they are practicing home invasion tactics...

Advice: sell everything and move to a non-new world order Island... like Tonga or Siapan or someplace that is slightly populated... that way you will be so far down the list - would they even bother... but they got to kill people... thats what these laws all point too.... the common denominator - a license to kill people.... scary stuff.... and it becons the question: WHY? and again it is missing .... WHY?

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 10:31 AM
This show with Dr. Paul feels dead on. I said feels. Especially with regards the crying Obama followers who as a mass probably don’t know a thing about his policies and are young, stupid, an emotionally attached anyway. People who just absolutely love this guy. What would a NWO agenda love more than the American people who are backing the guy that ushers America into desolation or further constriction (with all the other factors laid before him by Georgie)? The mob is obviously easily swayed by personality (and race) while the rest of us here are definitely skeptical. Even the other boards I've been reading is showing me that even some of the people I saw as mostly outspoken against the NWO are starting to believe in this guy. What happened to his seat at the CFR, his radical roots, his close friendship with Rove, and the list goes on an on. WTF you don't even know what you're crying for and seeing those crowds in Chicago man, the emotional attachment just to hear the puppet speak, these people kind of terrify me. I saw it with my own eyes man as I strolled towards Buckingham fountain, people just balling at a man who has only talked about change and hope when all the signs point to - their isn’t none.

Jones is a hell of a character and unfortunately one I cannot trust. He is loaded with information from many good news sources and is an intelligent man (was an actor). However on many other occasions has been proven to be full of BS. He won't touch the Jesuits or anything coming out of the whore on seven hills which is very much the roots of a ton of the secret societies. His scenarios with getting arrested or harassed for his films feel, look, smell, so, so staged....

The man seems to be an obvious sensationalist scaremonger who preys on peoples fear - it’s screwy. He is very good at what he does.

He'll bash people publicly one day and then has them on his show another day like it isn't anything. What’s going on here as I see it is that this guy is more than just a very liberal show host... There something more to Mr. Jones and to Ron Paul for that matter.. Ron Paul on Alex Jones after Jones has been proven time and time again not to be trusted.... Ron Paul endorsing him and all the Paulheads listening to Paul and thus Jones now perhaps....

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 11:50 AM
Really? wow....

A: Either is this true and we are in for some real fireworks in shortorder.


B: This is not true and this is a case of some of the worst fearmongering to be found.

I know which answer I am circling...

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 12:14 PM
There's a war going on for our hearts and minds...

On one side you have the Collectivists, who currently have the upper hand. These people go by many names; Socialists, Communists, Fascists, Nazis, Dictatorships, etc. The common thread is that government either owns, runs or otherwise regulates the economy from a centralized source, in a top- down fashion. There is little room for personal freedom, because the commands come down from on high and the people must obey. Non- participation is not an option.

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson." - A letter written by FDR to Colonel House, November 21st, l933

"Under Socialism you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not the character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner. . . ." - Fabian Socialist Bernard Shaw in his Intelligent Woman's Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, 1928

On the other side of the equation you have the Individualists, who don't have as many cool names, but may be known as Libertarians, Constitutionalists, or just plain old freedom lovers. These people believe that humans have inalienable rights that government can't take away. They believe that the Individual is sovereign. They believe in cooperation not coersion, as everything good springs from the ground- up.

"Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have." - Davy Crockett

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it's issuance." - James Madison

"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day. But a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers (administrations), too plainly proves a deliberate systematic plan of reducing us to slavery." - Thomas Jefferson

Alex Jones and Ron Paul are Individualists, which is the important thing. Maybe they're not slick, polished propaganda masters, but both of them are working hard to get the word out. You need to be a good listener to hear past the static.

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 12:17 PM
ron paul was just going on his show because its one of the only places he will get a full chance to speak.

to the people who said ron paul gave up, do you honestly know what day and age we live in? did you not see the obvious blackball? if you watched the primaries you should have been able to tell.

yes, alex jones does monger fear. maybe thats because he is going crazy that this takeover is so blatantly happening yet the people only care about this man whom will take us to the promise land.

its hard for me to believe people still follow their parties and candidates with so much enthusiasm. do you still not realise dem or rep doesnt make any difference? there is nothing that will change. just watch.

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