Originally posted by Gateway
reply to post by dawnstar
No, Obama won because people in general voted for him, be it independent, fed-up republicans, even some libertarians bought the lesser of two evils
crap and voted for him.
Make no mistake about it...Obama will be in office for 4 count them 4 years only. In 4 years this puppy is done put a fork in him, this sucker isn't
coming back, he will not accomplish everything he wants without raising taxes, and raising taxes is not a good idea when we face a serious recession.
I have some wealthy friends already saying they will transfer their wealth were Obama can't get to it. What does this mean...it means the rich are
already taking their toys away, this is bad news if you want more job growth in this country.
Oh and by the way, do some research "Neoconservatives" came from the Democratic party. And that's where they'll have to go, once they are
you think we are gonna make it 4 years?
that our economy is gonna hold itself together for that long? or even a couple of years?
I don't. not without a great deal of sacrifice...FROM EVERYONE!
it's obvious to me that no one is willing to make that sacrifice. they are clamoring for their special government programs, they are whining at the
idea that they should pay higher taxes. you suggest that part of the solution has to be paying those at the lower end of the wage scale something
closer to a living wage, and they bulk at ya. why sacrifice when you can just pass the bill down to your children, and their children right?
I didn't support any candidate this time around...I won't support a liar! and they both lied quite a few times. now if one would stand up, and be
honest with the people and telll them where we stand, and what it is gonna take to get into a better situation, well, they would get my support, but I
am afraid they would get very few votes. the budget needs to be quite a bit more balanced, which well with the deficit we have now, means that our
taxes are gonna have to go up, and those special favorite little government programs needs to be cut...back to the basics, figure out what we, as a
country absolutely need, and cut the rest! I don't see why this is so difficult, my family has lived this way for a couple decades!
the rich have been moving their assetts and businesses offshore for quite awhile now, nothing new here....the more money we give them, the faster they
they know a deadhorse when they see one and they have no intention of sitting around till the vultures have devoured it and turned on them.
and to be quite honest with ya, our "recession" and economic crisis is just as much a result of outright fraud and other questionable practices than
it is anything else. and, it's has cost us probably close to a trillion dollars as of now I think. if I am gonna watch the cost of living increase,
my taxes increase, the gov't handouts increase, well...guess what... there is gonna be a shared equality when it comes to paying all this crap off!
that includes the "poor", what the heck, with so many of the not "poor" not able to get necessary healthcare, this would be a great place to
start! but, I mean all of it, the handouts to the poor, but also the money flowing into the drug comany, the research and developement ect. how much
money do you think that would cut from the budget? it would be justifiable as far as I am concerned...you can't pay for everyone who really needs
the help, don't see where it's gonna be possible anytime in the near future. so why not...is it really right to give the "poor" the better living
conditions than the ones footing the bill? same with food stamps, there were many years when my family was living on $30 a week while a family of the
same size, with no income were getting around $400 a month...cut it!
but, it also goes to defense also, we have overburdened our troops, scattered them all over the world, and quite frankly, they don't need to be all
over the world. pick out what is necessary, give up what isn't.
and it goes for the "rich", who, by the way, are the ones who seems to me have profited the most by this little scam and illusion of prosperity that
has turned into dust! by God, if I can go to work everyday, get myself home on a prayer because it hurts like hades to push a gas peddle or brake, go
without healthcare, and skimp on the things that I want while earning quite a bit less than living on my own would require, and pay more in taxes (I
already have over a third taken out!)...well....I am sure those making $250,000 or more ain't gonna die from losing a little themselves!
otherwise, well...guess what, it's not just the rich planning on jumping ship!
I want to see the people who actually committed this fraud, those who planned it, well, I want to see them prosecuted, that which they gained through
it conficated and put in the treasury.
I want to see gov't slashed evenly, across the board, with all the unnecessary junk gone.
and I want to see everyone, including you nice "rich" folks bearing some of the burden.
otherwise, I guarentee you, I won't be sholdering it either!
the neocons are now "liberal".....that's a good one..
I suspose it was the "liberal democrats" that put bush in office also.
by the way, if the republicans proved to me that they were going back to the basics, well....they could actually get my vote. but, well, they've did
their job, they've fleeced the country beyond what it can bear. now it's time for the liberals to come in and catch as many of the fallen as they
can in their net, much like a fisherman catches his food in his nets. ....they cycle just continues round and round..
add neocons to the group of the alienated I guess...