How Many People That Make Over $250,000 A Year Voted For Obama?

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posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 04:44 PM
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We all knew going into this election race was going to be an issue. I am blessed as a white man to see such a huge step for such a great nation. For many race was a concern, but not enough to decide the election.

With the election now behind us now, the question I would like to ask is this. How many invididuals who make over $250,000 a year and will be affected by Obama's tax proposal voted for him. I was surprised to see so many celebrities are acually supporting the raise in tax. I need the input of all you wonderful experts and ones who fall into the new tax bracket.




posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 04:50 PM
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reply to post by TheHunted
 


celebs are filthy rich anyway it wont change their lifestyle or standard of living at all. Also it might shock you but most people would favour a progressive taxation policy. Small price to pay to change course from the disastrous neocon plan of the last 8 years.



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 04:56 PM
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Well on the BBC news from New York at around 3 am (GMT) a Leading Stock trader, said he and his wife have changed the habit of a lifetime and voted for Obama and does not mind paying more taxs for a better country and safer world

Something along the lines of "what's the use in having more money if your countries always at war and it isn't safe"

He then went on about pride in his nationhood and being able to look foreign business associates in the Eyes!

And that from a stock broker lol.


He is one, and the report was just interviews from an affluent bar somewhere, just random people, all the Rolex dudes around him were nodding their heads in agreement.

As was said later on by the world renowned USA journalist and commentator
Gore Vidal to a panel on BBC news which really really angered Richard Bolton who was a guest:

" the republicans are not a party, its a way of life, people who like War, greed and money at all costs"

I personally cant disagree with that!

Elf.

[edit on 5-11-2008 by MischeviousElf] to scratch my head and remember Vidal, lol no sleep.

[edit on 5-11-2008 by MischeviousElf]



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 04:58 PM
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reply to post by yeti101
 

Agreed, there are still plenty in the general public who believe all celebs care more about million dollar cars then paying taxes and helping the poor.

How do you think the exec that makes $250,000 even voted?



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 05:18 PM
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Ever heard this one before?



Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

Source: www.quotationspage.com...



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 05:25 PM
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for many people, an increase in tax brackets, reversing Bush's cuts, will actually reduce taxes.



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 05:27 PM
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I have indeed,

It seems to go both ways.

I am not sure If your are supporting who I mentioned the Rich Stock trader, or berating him.

War and invasion of Iraq etc was sold on the premise of a safer world, though you could say that backing Obama and that guys feelings was also in a sense giving up safety and therefore you don't deserve liberty.


Its a Carte Blanche statement and the Patriot act etc since 9/11 and the liberties lost in the pursuit of a perceived IMHO safety, which in-fact lowered both of these things.

It all depends on your point of view!

Elf



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 05:27 PM
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My mother makes over $250,000 a year and wouldn't be caught dead voting for anyone in the Republican party. Some people care more about just money in life, like having a good country.



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 05:31 PM
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I think... taxes would have been much less of an issue if you made over 250,000

which if you know income, most people over that are waaaaay over that ...

I don't think the Million + a year sect gives a hoot about taxes

I do think the 125,000 -350,000 group (which is also very small)

Pooped their pants over Obama, those Close to being Rich... but not genuinely there yet, just doing good and not wanting difficulty bridging the gap

But workers whos wages will never climb that high and those for whom, already make enough money that... their money, not their work makes them money the tax is either a plus in respect to group1 and a non entity to the truly rich



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 05:48 PM
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Go to this The Guardian Interactive map and rollover the Rich section.

To me it looks like the better off states generally vote Obama.



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 05:56 PM
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I read a article today on a sports website that was talking about how agents for athletes may want the owners of professional teams to dish out larger signing bonuses to offset the higher tax bracket.

I'm a huge sports fan, but this statement has truly ruined the image of pro sports for me. This extends beyond greed, they have become just as bad as big oil.

Bottom line it seems like the more money people have the less they want to part with when it comes to helping others. Plus the only reason why they dontate money to charity is it benefits them when it comes to taxes.



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 06:04 PM
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Obama's mother was a white Kansas woman...I am a white Kansas man...


So, the last time a white Kansas woman was famous she tried to ban alcohol
that is why I hold a bit of reservations in regard to Obama - insignificant coincidences.

Really though, he is a true African - American. African father, his mom prolly had native relatives...



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 06:08 PM
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do you mean
$250,000
or
$200,000
or
$150,000
or
$120,000
????????????????????

I just want to thank all you moochers that voted for obama, I hope you enjoy your $500 dollars that I am paying you and the healthcare that I am providing for you.

sleep well knowing that others are taking care of things you should take care of yourself!.
moochers




posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 06:17 PM
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Man up and stop crying. This is the U.S and Obama won the election and if you don't like it MOVE!

With the state of the economy jobs that provide health coverage are dropping it in high numbers. You are helping provide tax relief who have jobs. We are not trying to mooch. Your lousy 500 bucks is not going to make no one rich, but it will help me pay my heat bil which will increase another 15%. Thanks for your contribution.

[edit on 5-11-2008 by TheHunted]



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 07:21 PM
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Well lets get this straight;it is not 250.000 because like everything elce he has done he changed! It is now 150.000,soon it will be reduced I am sure once again,just give him a little time to get settled in.Enjoy what you Kool-aid drinkers voted for including all the free forced medication stepped up to high gear.And for the record I didn't play the voting game this year.Unlike Michelle Obama this is the first time in my adult life that I am not proud to be an American!!!!!!! And yes I am ready to get the heck out of dodge,problem is I don't see any place safe.So you all are stuck with me and while I am still allowed to speak my mind I will.Untill then I will pray for all the delusioned folks under the Obama spell and for the rest of us who see the the carnage to come.



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by mopusvindictus
I think... taxes would have been much less of an issue if you made over 250,000


normally people tend to make decisions with the wallet in mind.



Originally posted by mopusvindictus
which if you know income, most people over that are waaaaay over that ...


this is complete nonsense. income figures come in all sizes and the so called rich, per the tax charts, is supposedly only 4% of us.




Originally posted by mopusvindictus
I don't think the Million + a year sect gives a hoot about taxes

yeah, ask a million a year guy if he minds doling out $350k to the feds and then another $50 to $100k to the state. I bet he does give a hoot. I know quite a few guys who paid several million in taxes and when they could save $100 they were thrilled. why? because nobody likes giving the gov't money that isn't put to good use.



Originally posted by mopusvindictus
I do think the 125,000 -350,000 group (which is also very small)
Pooped their pants over Obama, those Close to being Rich... but not genuinely there yet, just doing good and not wanting difficulty bridging the gap


not as small as you think. might want to check the census data before assuming the number of people in this range. these folks most likely voted with their wallet and figured obama was the better man for them.



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 07:37 PM
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posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 07:50 PM
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Adult Life? You mean that's an adult ranting like that? Are you banging your fists against the wall and stomping your feet too? Kool Aid drinkers? What does that have to do with the topic?

The middle class is falling apart. This country needs fresh new ideas to boost the economy. I believe this one is brilliant. You raise taxes for those who can afford it and cut them for those who need it. Something has to be done to stimulate the economy the only way to do that is to put money into those that have no spending money.



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 08:15 PM
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figures seem to vary on the net and be a bit prone to interpretation

about 1% of Americans over 1 mil a year

another 5% over 150 G

and another 10% over 100 G

All I am saying was from my own perspective as a voter and a guy who is struggling in the direction Upwards from the 10% number atm

and YES (everyone is not me)

But Obamas tax plan frightens me only from a perspective of, loss of income heading to 250,000 and maybe fore 100 g or so above that

While of course, I can see someone, at 500,000 not wanting to loose an extra 10%...

I don't see it having nearly as much meaning in terms of not having any money to invest forward and certainly less and less above that amount as it does at 250,000 after you deduct your expenses

what I am saying is... if a nice life, a very decent home, your basic luxuries, going out, having nice dinners a somewhat showy vehicle, nice clothes all the insurance and kids, yadda yadaa.... cost 100-150,000 for, a very nice life style or even a bit more...

and the tax comes in trumping you up at 250 G a year, your not left with investment money

and as I see it...

There is a sweet spot where, lifestyle unless your genuinely in excess ... is handled and what you have above that is money that makes you money

I think once you are at that point (and that number varies by opinion of what exactly a nice life is and costs) but from that point your... a person whos money is making you money

and for ME

I feel threatened by a number of 150 or even 250, being that number


I can't see caring, half as much or even at all if I was already at 1 Million plus a year

500 G or 400 G left over after taxes, for me, is plenty to know I can, make moves, open small businesses throw money at investments whatever, a difference in doing something via the extra tax might mean waiting 6 months

certainly if, I was at 10 mil I wouldn't have much fear, being relatively fiscally conservative... of not having investment money

do some people at that level NOT want to pay it sure!

But from a place of good heart for others, your wealth I dare say is not jeopardized

But for me... if it turns out to be tax hikes at 250 and they are more than said in promises (almost certainly will be over 4 years) or it becomes 150 if Biden didn't gaffe when he said that

I might well see a reduction in life, or... not have money to invest forward without making genuine sacrifices...

But, for someone like myself who "could" be rich in the next few years and doesn't believe himself to be now... it could be difficult to bridge the gap as a result

but I don't see, those who already have... as struggling because of it...

when I factor in everything, 250 seems very low... for people to achieve a place of wealth if being taxed as wealthy and...

we WANT people to not just get help...but be able to achieve wealth, it makes jobs, it's money spent and invested, it's not a negative that people get rich in America

I see his numbers as too low in making that happen

In essence I don't disagree with Obama on a wealth tax... nor would I resent paying it

I just don't think 250 could be defined as wealth... not to a degree where, the tax won't be preventing you in some cases from playing with your money without making taxes...

I see a number (fictional atm but possible under his guidance) Of 50% at 250 being a reduction off of upper middle class, and something for me to be concerned about...

I don't much care what I pay in genuinely high brackets if it helps people or keeps them from being unruly and disruptive...poverty is BAD, it's crime... it's desperation

Poverty, could end my life going to the store...

so a higher tax, if I am wealthy?

By all means

My concern is a greater degree of challenge and difficulty becoming wealthy

Not, having to shell out more of genuine profits, not investing 10-15% less, but rather... not being able to invest at all i think is far more worry some

and that's ME

not statistics, not facts

But I would dare say... Obama was right at some level on the Greed issue at some point...

at 100 G plus... I still have student loan payments I haven't finished, my child support assigned is an OUCH every month, my total insurance costs are... a major disturbance in the force, I work... all the time

I find his numbers...10 G for me could be all I have to put to retirement in a year right now... his idea of wealth is, very LOW

But if I was Rich, if I had 500 G a year to invest and thought it might only be 350 (and these are numbers of example only)

I don't think i'd cry over it... I could get that Aston martin I want and still drop another 100 G into savings or investments and waste another 50 having fun

That's a Good Life

and where I am, waiting another year or two to have a house purchase given the loan availability and wanting something not extravagant but... a family would be proud of...

a couple years of my life, to have that, matters, money NOT going into savings or investments which is real for me at those figures matters

but multi millionaire income... shaving your 3rd home, I don't know how much of a fear that is by comparison to just wanting one nice one in the first place...

But I know ME and I wouldn't mind the tax if I had...money left over



posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 09:38 PM
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Your darn right I am banging my fists and stomping my feet at the blind faith that this puppet will bring you deliverence.Don't worry you will still be able to enjoy your sports tv.Yes there is way too much money supported on stieroid money hungery team owners,but lets take a good look at the power hungery robber thug hugger bankers.You betcha I am mad,and what up-sets me the most is the insanity of the american people like Peggy the moocher waiting for the "Great one" to heal all wounds.Yes Obama and his black widow wife will bring change,get ready for the ride of your life, Truthfuly it really isn't Obama directly;it is the puppet masters he believes and listens to,so it is easierto put all the nations problems on a person.Bush is a........, ( fill in the blank) but all he did was fulfill his contract and it wasn't a contract with the people.This is the same game over and over and over again and people just keep thinking that it will be different THIS time.What a joke and I am not laughing.This ship is going down and the band keps playing.





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