Bush must be breathing a sigh of relief. Finally the public have someone else to focus on.

Rahm is Obama's 'Karl Rove' equivelent...

Wow I would not take it that far... I mean Satan only has one equal after all.

[edit on 7-11-2008 by Lucid Lunacy]

Originally posted by JacKatMtn
Although my candidate did not succeed in his campaign for the Presidency, I will give the new administration the benefit of the doubt, I am actually more concerned with what Pelosi and Reid and the crew at the Capitol have planned for the citizens..

I'm with you re the new administration, not my pick. As for Pelosi and Reid I think this Emanuel choice demonstrates that Obama is similarly concerned. If the GOP controlled congress I would see this as a partisan choice but with a Dem Congress I see this as a wise move. It'll be his own party that Obama will need Emanuel to whip into line for him and the bull dog will be nipping at the donkey's heels more than the elephants!

Hey Barack specifically promised to rebuild the Jewish Black Alliance when he was still fighting with Hillary...

People didn't think much about what he says so much as how they guys says things, particularly since he ran against the living dead in the election... McCain was about as exciting as a toaster I suppose...

But hey, at least i'm Jewish, maybe I wont be in some Islamic inquisition room after all by the end of this 4 years after all

Biden now Rahm You all just voted for 4 more years of war... who would have guessed.





[edit on 7-11-2008 by mopusvindictus]

And... thinking about this for a bit

Probably he is attempting to see to it that Israel doesn't attack Iran thinking he doesn't/America no longer will have it's back

This Rahm guy is seriously disturbed. The 'knife incident' is just crazy. He helped ram NAFTA and the AWB through under Clinton. He's also one of the biggest recipients of wall street money in Congress. He's going to be all for the Obama Youth. Here's a nifty quote from a book he co-authored titled The Plan: Big Ideas For America. "It’s time for a real Patriot Act that brings out the patriot in all of us. We propose universal civilian service for every young American. Under this plan, All Americans between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service. Here’s how it would work. Young people will know that between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five, the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service. They’ll be asked to report for three months of basic civil defense training in their state or community, where they will learn what to do in the event of biochemical, nuclear or conventional attack; how to assist others in an evacuation; how to respond when a levee breaks or we’re hit by a natural disaster. These young people will be available to address their communities’ most pressing needs. Emanuel and co-author Bruce Reed insist "this is not a draft," but go on to write of young men and women, "the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service." They also warn, "some Republicans will squeal about individual freedom," ruling out any likelihood that they would let people opt out of universal citizen service. As chief of staff, Emanuel will not be in a position to directly introduce public policy, but his enthusiasm for compulsory service, combined with Barack Obama’s own plan to require high school students to perform 50 hours of government-approved service, suggest an unfortunate direction for the new administration." I bet Israel is rejoicing now that they have a man in the white house.
Mazal Tav

I wonder if the 'enlistees' will also learn about civics, personal rights, the constitution and it's history, or anything else that would reinforce their notion of what America is and isn't.

This is (sorry to say) similar to Hitler's 'youth' programs too. Interesting that we must teach them how to react to 'being attacked'.

Sorry, it's got lipstick, but it's still a pig, after all. Soon they'll expect and reward children for being the 'eyes and ears' of the government...

Originally posted by MetatronCubensis
This Rahm guy is seriously disturbed. The 'knife incident' is just crazy. He helped ram NAFTA and the AWB through under Clinton. He's also one of the biggest recipients of wall street money in Congress. He's going to be all for the Obama Youth. Here's a nifty quote from a book he co-authored titled The Plan: Big Ideas For America. "It’s time for a real Patriot Act that brings out the patriot in all of us. We propose universal civilian service for every young American. Under this plan, All Americans between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service. Here’s how it would work. Young people will know that between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five, the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service. They’ll be asked to report for three months of basic civil defense training in their state or community, where they will learn what to do in the event of biochemical, nuclear or conventional attack; how to assist others in an evacuation; how to respond when a levee breaks or we’re hit by a natural disaster. These young people will be available to address their communities’ most pressing needs. Emanuel and co-author Bruce Reed insist "this is not a draft," but go on to write of young men and women, "the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service." They also warn, "some Republicans will squeal about individual freedom," ruling out any likelihood that they would let people opt out of universal citizen service. As chief of staff, Emanuel will not be in a position to directly introduce public policy, but his enthusiasm for compulsory service, combined with Barack Obama’s own plan to require high school students to perform 50 hours of government-approved service, suggest an unfortunate direction for the new administration." I bet Israel is rejoicing now that they have a man in the white house.
Mazal Tav

Wow, I quoted the whole thing, because yours was a great post. I disagree with your conclusions though, but I am glad you left the specifics in there.

I'm all for this. 3 months of civic training during the ages of 18 and 25 is exactly what this country needs to ensure future generations have a built in readiness for the threats we will be facing. As for personal freedoms, I believe that 3 months of civic training is not any more an infringment on my rights than the compulsion to be be in school from k-12. Do you know why education is mandated by the gov, regardless of administration? Because an Educated population has been proven to be a more affluent population and healthier population.

This simply adds one more layer of preparedness onto our children and grandchildren. At the same time, like education, it helps ensure our liberties.



[edit on 7-11-2008 by HunkaHunka]

[edit on 7-11-2008 by HunkaHunka]

Originally posted by HunkaHunka

I'm all for this. 3 months of civic training during the ages of 18 and 25 is exactly what this country needs to ensure future generations have a built in readiness for the threats we will be facing. As for personal freedoms, I believe that 3 months of civic training is not any more an infringment on my rights than the compulsion to be be in school from k-12. Do you know why education is mandated by the gov, regardless of administration? Because an Educated population has been proven to be a more affluent population and healthier population.

This simply adds one more layer of preparedness onto our children and grandchildren. At the same time, like education, it helps ensure our liberties.

Why are you of the opinion that we WILL be facing threats of this nature. Are you so sure? Shouldn't we be preparing our children to avoid getting to that point? Or will we be beating the war drums forever? Shall we teach them to handle weapons and issue tasers? Should they learn how to restrain dissidents and report 'suspicious' behavior or open dissent? Will we issue them gas masks and paramilitary gear?

And why should we call this civic training? Sounds to me like we are simply surrendering our children to FEMA as free labor. We definitely are not on the same page. Perhaps I would agree if there were actual 'civics' involved. But this is simply a 'show your loyalty' mandate to surrender your labor to the FEDERAL government. Do the states have any say?

Someone who believes in education as you profess should be familiar with the fact that since the federal government has been involved in 'education' we have become the laughing stock of the world - educationally speaking. This isn't about 'education' it's about indoctrination into government mandated service. You think there will be 'learning' of some kind? At best it will be 'TRAINING' to execute certain functions at the direction of the FEDERAL government on demand.

I for one DO feel this is an infringement on the liberty of the people. What the plan is based upon is the paradigm that the government WON'T be there to help us (what else is new?) but instead that WE have to do it, at THEIR direction. Why not just reinstate the draft and be done with it? This is a poorly veiled induction into mandatory governmental service - call it what you will - but in the end - people cannot refuse - they will be punished if they do.

What better way to finalize the police state turning our children against their elders.

To become snitches of the government.

Sorry to say this, but it does smell like a "democratic version" of the Nazi youth to me.