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Originally posted by cpdaman
the smoking gun is the knowledge that monsanto study's and other study's determing the toxicity of the bT toxins were based on natural toxins, not the hybrid genetically altered toxins, which in limited studies point to the fact it can tear up the lining of a bee's intestine and kill it's immune system thanks to the exponetnailly higher increase in toxicity. and now we have dead bee's with up to 6 infections within them. gee what a mystery. people are confused, this matches nothing in the literature of bee history.
Monsanto is backed by very very poweful men, and if you take a peak at the new book SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION you may get a head up to what the game plan has been. There is documentation in the book of all the corruption and the levels to which these powers exert pressure to surpess any negative press and that there is simply too much money and plans put in place by these elite's to simply blame them for Colony Collapse Disorder, it is not an option. The book provides evidence of how ruthless the bio tech industry is in manipulating the science and the enviornmenta agency's. Does this mean they are Definitely Responsible? Not sure about that. But it's quakin like a duck! they are by far and away the leading suspects.
Now these toxins cause a weakness in the bee's immune system and particularly in the lining of the intestine . Causing many virus's (that previously may have been killed by the immune system to flourish) including the (israeli acute paralyasis virus) IAPV disease
i believe this is consistent with bt toxins and the harm they cause so now whatever outbreak of disease (which under normal immune response) may only suffer minor deaths now completly obliterate's these colony's. It is not like IAPV is new or something.
Originally posted by worldwatcher
I have a little area of my urban garden dedicated to butterflies and I currently have a dozen or more bees at any given time all over my pentas and mexican petunias. I use no pesticides and leave it up to nature to take care of things and I have seen at least three different types of bees around. I definitely think the bees dying off in certain areas are due to pesticides.
Originally posted by Valkyr8
But what you are forgetting is if they were all dieing off there would be bodies. There are no bodies.
Originally posted by Iblis Smiley
reply to post by BlackOpsOperative
Please start a new thread or find the appropriate one to post this in so we can go explain why we will not buy any of it there. This is about bees and reality. You are only halfway there.