Red Flag IAF lecture., page 3
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 09:48 AM by Zaphod58
reply to post by Daedalus3



Did you read the points that I brought up in my previous post? A lot of the things that he talked about DIDN'T HAPPEN at Red Flag, or if they DID happen, they didn't happen in the way that he talked about and claimed that they did.



reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 11:19 PM by C0bzz
reply to post by 121200



No, that is not what he said. A rough transcript is on page one.

Thank you.

[edit on 23/11/2008 by C0bzz]


reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 03:13 AM by Daedalus3
reply to post by Zaphod58



Yea.. well I still am not sure if you are talking about Vishnu or the F-15 pilot who who briefed that Daedalian General convention.. so that is my disconnect.

Anyways.. chuck it.. As Jezza said.. one may never know, but we are all a tad more knowledgeable post RF 08..


reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 05:10 AM by Zaphod58
reply to post by Daedalus3



Well considering that the PILOT BRIEFING THEM was making claims about all the points that I said were wrong I'm gonna have to go with the pilot briefing them that was making things up as he went along. I'm really not sure how there was a disconnect there. The PILOT claimed they had thrust vectoring issues, I said they didn't use it. The PILOT claimed the MiG-21 used Israeli radar, I said it was Russian.....



reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 08:50 PM by Daedalus3
reply to post by Zaphod58



The disconnect was that you said HE... ,and just a couple of posts before that Cobbz linked a journalist PoV on the thing.


Whatever..


reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 06:26 PM by 121200
Originally posted by C0bzz
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post by 121200



No, that is not what he said. A rough transcript is on page one.

Thank you.

[edit on 23/11/2008 by C0bzz]
I know he didin't say those exact words but what he's saying is that the TVC's on Su-30's cause the planes to fall, when they used in that upturn mode, and what I'm saying is, I know the Russian's are not going to create the TVC's on Su-30's to do that and sell it to custumers, thinking no one will find out.
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