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Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
reply to post by lordtyp0
The relevance of the last paragraph is part of the reason why the republicans got a bad wrap and why somebody like Obama was voted into office. He pretty much thinks capitalism sucks and we need to give up what we earn to help our neighbors. What people dont seem to understand is that poor people in this country live 10 times better than they do in 98% than the rest of the world.
So I got where it came from wrong, but that is what the whole constitution is built around. Also in the Deceleration of Independence does it also not say "We The People"?
Originally posted by lordtyp0
First: The 10th amendment has nothing to do with anything here:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." (means the states get to set their own laws as long as it doesn't overwrite laws in place. Doesn't mean the Gov has any obligation. What little argument you can present with the 10th amendment could also be extended to drug laws.)
Originally posted by lordtyp0
As for raising gas taxes... Where is your outrage over the ciggarette taxes? Or how about the whole subsidized fuel? (part of our taxes go into buying bulk gas to reduce cost at the pump already).
Originally posted by lordtyp0
The way to curtail bad habits is to make it less desirable to do it. In this case there is ample reason to believe we are destroying the world due to global warming. At least there is enough evidence to say we should do SOMETHING. If that means someone needs to spend a dollar a gallon more on that Escalade to fill the tank.. I have no pity.
Originally posted by lordtyp0
One thing forgotten here is the economic concept of "someone elses problem". We have taxes because the potholes wont repair themselves and nobody would volunteer the money to repair them. Nor pay for public education etc.
Originally posted by lordtyp0
To trivialize the constitution by claiming it somehow promises cheap fuel is reprehensible.
the answer is PEACE,COOPERATION UNDERSTANDING, EMPOWERMENT,LISTENING,& CHANGE
And, for the umpteenth time.....The US is not supposed to be a democracy. We are supposed to be a Constituional Republic built on the phiosophy of individualism.
Originally posted by lordtyp0
I disagree on the bad wrap thing. I would say they got a bad wrap for being inherantly corrupt. You claim Obama doesn't like "capitalism".
Originally posted by lordtyp0
Anyway, pay attention over the next few months, I think you will be convinced by time.
Originally posted by lordtyp0
To start with, he doesn't want to "Spread the wealth" in anything similar to a socialist/communist sense.
In the US for decades the upper percentage has been getting massive tax cuts.
Most have so many loopholes they dont have to pay anything in taxes.
What Obama wants to do is cut the tax the middle class pays (been getting the short end for my entire life) and increase the taxes on those who make a quarter million a year. You know, the people who can afford to get out of paying taxes with lawyers.
How is this somehow bad?
Is my hard work not warrent me having a bigger chunk of my pay?
Originally posted by BlueTriangle Can you please explain to me how I have a choice to not follow his policies? His policies are going to be forced on all of us whether I like it or not. Regarding the rest of your tirade, I knew my guy was going to lose from day one because third party has ZERO shot in the current political climate.
As I said in my earlier post, I am holding judgement until he actually gets into office. I am very concerned though. There are two different Obamas here and I'm really not sure which one is going to be President. We have pre-presidential race Obama who was very far left, very partisan, and has the record to back it up. Then, we have the Obama that was presented to us during the race who is actually pretty centrist. Occasionally, little off the record quips would slip out (like the Joe the Plumber drama) that sounded like the old Obama. If we get the centrist version, I think he may actually change the country for the better. If we get leftist Obama...god help us.
The kind of people he attracts such as, Bill Ayers, Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Wright, Khailid, the communist party of the USA, the socialist party of the USA, Tony Rezko, The endorsment of Hamas, Hugo Chavez, Castro, Kim Jong IL. Those kind of people? Or how about his past record for example spent 160 million dollars to improve the schools and nothing got improved. Or lets take a look at his past record and see how that matches up with his rhetoric. There is absolutely no proof that he is going to do what the people ask him to do. In fact I remember he said he was going to vote against and filibuster the FISA bill he voted yes without so much a peep, then went and called the people that are mad at him for it "egotistical." Or how bout the recent bailout bill which over 80% of us didn't agree with. And, yes it can get a lot worse a whole lot worse. That is fine those people voted for him and they got what they wanted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and wish him well, but I don't expect for him to even do 5% of what he has promised all those people. Let's not even get started on Iraq. There is so much going on over there unless you are there and see it for yourself there is no way to get a straight answer. And if the politicians would have stayed out of
Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife reply to post by lordtyp0 The relevance of the last paragraph is part of the reason why the republicans got a bad wrap and why somebody like Obama was voted into office. He pretty much thinks capitalism sucks and we need to give up what we earn to help our neighbors. What people dont seem to understand is that poor people in this country live 10 times better than they do in 98% than the rest of the world. So I got where it came from wrong, but that is what the whole constitution is built around. Also in the Deceleration of Independence does it also not say "We The People"?
Sure they live 98% better,, well maybe. Theres a lady near my work, about 60 years old, skinner, always covered in bruises and ciggarette burns. Im sure thats better than someone in Darfur who just endured gang rape.
Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
This is my idea how to inspire people around the world. How bout quit giving government handouts and get the government out of our lives so people can see that they can do it on their own.
The government giving a helping hand isn't inspiring anybody.
Originally posted by spiffymon
I personally am thrilled to have a black president.