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Originally posted by Barathrum
don't let who wins an election make you frown. that's giving someone else power over your perception and ultimately, over you. you are in charge of yourself as an individual and the decisions we all make individually are what truly determine the direction we as a collective take
are diametrically opposed
Originally posted by EyesWideShut
reply to post by gizmohd
Giz , the thing I think you fail to understand is " The names Change but the game stays the same" They are both puppets. If John won what Huge changes would have taken place?.... The same ones that Obama will bring...NONE - It's politics
[edit on 4-11-2008 by EyesWideShut]
Originally posted by Rotoplooker
Now, if George W. Bush had declared marshal law and maintained his office, that would have been AWFUL! No flowery throws for that kind of situation.
This is incorrect. How can capitalism under minimal government, which is what capitalism is... manipulate the government enough to control entry? This is a contradiction, my dear boy. This can only occur in an environment where the STATE is large enough to regulate the entire economy, hence it is a LEFTIST ideology. Ergo, fascism, the further you move to the left the larger the STATE is and the larger the hold of privately owned means of production.
no, actually fascism is from the right, as capitalism is pushed to the extreme where the corporations gain the power to disrupt the political system and push legislation that benefits them at expense of the people.
But in socialism, contrary to your statement, the means of production are not necessarily owned by the government, they can be owned by the businesses, however, the PROFIT, or at least some of it, is used for the people.
Socialism by its definition is not for profit, since people will not see a dime in return. It is redistribution of wealth, where everyone is made worse off, since no one is to be made better off than his neighbor.
Thats what socialism is, nationalization of profit for benefit of citizens.