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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 10:40 PM by dreamsnatcher
reply to post by rikk7111


Who are all these lazy Americans you keep talking about? There have been people sucking on the tit of welfare forever. Do you think that suddenly that will change? The American dream you blather on about is no dream at all, it is made up to convince you that everyone else is not enjoying the life they have. Work hard pay taxes buy things be a good consumer, we need to grow and consume. Yeah what a dream


reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 10:51 PM by Gateway
reply to post by nj2day


Fair enough...

Perhaps it's time to repeal quotas and affirmative action regulations, don't you agree?


reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 10:52 PM by gizmohd
Originally posted by dreamsnatcher
reply to post by rikk7111


Who are all these lazy Americans you keep talking about? There have been people sucking on the tit of welfare forever. Do you think that suddenly that will change? The American dream you blather on about is no dream at all, it is made up to convince you that everyone else is not enjoying the life they have. Work hard pay taxes buy things be a good consumer, we need to grow and consume. Yeah what a dream


Yes I agree there is a very large contingent of lazy SOB's that strive to take more and more from the government. My taxes are through the roof because some lazy lil sob wants to pop out a couple kids just to get a bigger check. I'm tired of financing the drug war.. I'm tired of financing everyone elses social ilks when I am struggling to support my family.. I work hard to keep my son and my daughter safe and I work hard to keep the government out of my business and mind my own... I live very humbly and only buy what I need and thats how I am raising my children.. So say what you want.. I believe in what this country stands for and served proudly to defend it.. No, i dont agree with GW on what he did. But he wasnt alone in this mess.. He alone did not cause this debacle we have in the mortgage industry. It took the senate and house to pass and authorize and require the banking industry to lower their standards to make it more Fair so that people that had no business whatsoever getting a mortgage got one. It was the congress that passed outrageous cafe standards that effectively legislated out auto industry out of business... So before fingers get pointed at one man, look closely at the 435 members of the US House of Representatives and the 100 Senators and see who proposed/voted on what issues.. You will see that both sides of the isle are equally guilty in this...


reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 10:56 PM by gizmohd
Originally posted by EyesWideShut
To the op.... here's a hand for doing your effin Job. ... It's rough I'm 28 my wife doesn't work and I have 2 kids as well. This is the thing though...last year I paid roughly $37,000 in taxes... THIRTY SEVEN F****** THOUSAND DOLLARS in TAXES!!!! and that was under the bush admin so you're preaching to the choir... I mean how much more can I be taxed!?!... Hell yeah tax multibillionaire companies , they have the money... EXXON MOBIL posted a $137.7 billion quarterly profit. TAX EM!!!...make more money, pay more taxes its simple!!! As much as I complain I'm glad I'm in the position to be able to be taxed 37 grand. I could be worse , I could have only made 37k


Sure that sounds good.. But your missing the main point.. Corporations dont pay taxes... EVER... all taxes placed on corporations are always funneled down to the end user... so if you tax Exxon mobile an extra 20%, then gas prices will go up 30% to make up the difference to keep their sheets flat... Its not about increasing the tax burdon on companies and individuals.. its about DECREASING the size and scope of government and eliminate their need for our money..

Return the powers back to the states where they belong.. It was NEVER the fed's job to do what they are doing now... Only to ASSIST the states in their operations...

Oh.. And BTW... It's not a JOB taking care of my children.. It's my duty above all.. and there would be NOTHING I would change given the chance...

[edit on 4-11-2008 by gizmohd]


reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 10:59 PM by Gateway
reply to post by gizmohd


No use trying to explain incentives and costs to socialists of any sort. They don't understand that taxes are just passed down to consumers in the form of higher prices for goods and services. They also don't understand that TAXING creates a disincentive for investment. Investments are what creates jobs....

It's like talking to brick wall...

[edit on 4-11-2008 by Gateway]



reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 11:03 PM by greeneyedleo
reply to post by Karlhungis


I don't hate. And because people are NOT happy with this man who will be our president, doesnt mean they are hating.

I personally (and im sure others too), love my country so much, that I have nothing but concern now. I think Obama is a horrible choice to lead this country. Guess time will tell...............and I can say with 100% sincerity: I REALLY hope I am wrong!
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