Web bot guys on Rense last night...

For all that couldn't listen...

rs457.rapidshare.com...

Enjoy!

Cliff from Webbot does not start until 80 minutes into the show.

I am too busy watching the forums to settle into a long drawn out video of the webots guys again. Can you give a brief synopsis?

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Thanks... I just started listening myself...

Webster Tarpley is entertaining enough to get me through the first 80 minutes...

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Will do once I get through it...

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Thank you very much for posting that

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Not a problem...

Here is a nutshell version posted by someone from another site...

In a nutshell, what the web bots predict is that paper asset # hits the fan big time in late November after a period of the first few weeks of November where other matters take priority in the news and it gets much worse for the economy leading eventually to the death of the dollar which is essentially complete in Spring 2009 leading to a calroie based economy. This complete collapse sows the seed of American Revolution II in which TPTB are arrested under warrants issued by revolutionary tribunals. Apparently the Christians and the Jews are blamed and due to some oligarch type criminals who arrive from other nations whose crimes are revealed the Jews flee to Israel which is branded a criminal nation by all nations and many Israelis leave Israel it gets so bad. In the US by midsummer 2009 no more entitlements. It becomes socially acceptable to militantly squat foreclosed homes and abandoned strip malls. Local currencies arise - some of which are food based rather than gold based.

I really recommend you subscribe because there is just way too much to convey in any summary.

If I'm up that late I'll transcribe. (I'm CST).

Clif: "Release" is you're coping with it... could be good or bad (the way you cope).

Election -- confusion, been tracking it for weeks. Initial confusion re: Hillary vs. Obama then McCain campaign and now confusion re: whether we'll get all results and how meaningful.

Won't matter. Wave will crest and break tomorrow. Over by 8:30 tomorrow. (probably EST)

Republican victory is slim. 3rd party may pull popular votes as Repubs. Confusion over election thru Feb.

Nature of confusion has shifted. People wondering "How could we have lost control." WIll view Obama as anti-Christ.

Clif: Will see people fleeing country...
People bound up in religious paradigm... glee to Costa Rica, etc.

Breaking up of empire (e..g, Ghengis Khan, Alexander the Great).. .will be like that globally. Global empire breaking up.

Rense: Obama people, kool-aid drinkers. Will be bitter when see kind of change coming.

Was projected by Biden and Powell already.

Clif: People responding to desperate need. Obama filled the need (or so they thought)

We tried stupid and didn't work for 8 years. Now looking for charisma-ability.

At cusp of transformation ('09). Social contract changed in ways that are staggering.

Clif: Politicans are not meaningful. The crisis is existent no matter who is in.

Deeper cycles... 200-400 years... empiring building and dissolving. Longest span human life = Roman... Two of those in this country and yet to complete the American Revolution. Still bound to the Queen.

Strange days indeed.

Rense: We aren't beyond beyond the American Revolution.
Powell said to expect crisis in January.
Biden talking about terrible times and unhappy people.
His and Obama's may be as low as BUsh's.

Financial situation is not resolvable. 16x deficit of world GDP.

Useless worthless financial instruments that are total trash.

Nothing happens by accident. Massive re-org of wealth. Some are comfortable with way things are going. Parasites taking from middle class.

People who go to Coast Rica will come back when see not better there.

Clif: They might come back sooner. We are reaching limit of resources that can extract.

We are very soon going to be at point of unsustainability.

Biosphere impacted by galactic plane.

First time in modern history for this. Effects on sun and solar system noticeable.

Clif: Bush with crises in late Nov/early Dec. r/t earthquake and ?? international/military.

China and Russia going to announce that they'll not use dollar soon.

Once hit early Jan, empire crumbles will be economic. E.g., abandoning military bases and try to get our guys/gals back.
Self cannibalizing capitalism not sustainable.

Gallactic effects - heliosphere has degraded 25%.

Very soon Russia and China will announce that they will no longer use the dollar in cross border trade. This will kill the dollar.
Rense: War or no war?

Clif: Constant level of military action right now.

Rense: Exansions?

Clif: Flying in of top generals into secret conf on east coast. Then our top generals and top generals in Russia.
No one saying what saying.

Are they plotting how it's all going to lay out?

Range of possibilities expands after January. Situation is focused on economics. Dollar problems. Hyper-inflationary mode for stuff we need. But stuff we don't need (like gas) won't be impacted. Won't need fuel d/t no jobs to drive to.

Hedonism... living under this now. Every month, like 80k new jobs d/t birth/death model. Because we think it's true, we'll tell you new jobs created.

People will have to make decision d/t life crumbling around them. Credit card debt now.... tightening.

Rense: grim Christmas. Maybe 1 present only. Have to.. austerity wake up call for people like never seen before.

Clif: Not seeing war with Iran, but could be wrong.

Isn't that not seeing anything. Seeing a high concentration in US populace for things military here. Close down bases and bring troops back d/t can't meet payroll because no one accept dollar. Cascade effect... no one using dollar except us.

War or no war?

No, does not show new war. Lot of anxiety about military.
Confrontations on an international level. Secret conference on East Coast with generals flying in from other countries (happened).

After January focus economic on all things. Hyperinflation. Restructuring on need to know real data by the government. Greenspans hedonic modification of data ( license to lie in government statistics). Comes back to haunt people that acually have to make decisions. Boogus 80,00 jobs created now just by computer model.

War with Iran not in data.

Close down bases and bring people home because of financial conditions. Thousand dollar oil because of death of dollar caused by Chinese and Russian rejection of dollar as medium of global trade.

Continued on next post...

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Jeff comments that Chinese bases all over world may replace US.

Calroie based global trade level.

Looks like complete collapse of the US dollar printing press is forecast.

Rense: May be vacuum created if we withdraw. Chinese will exploit this

Clif: I dispute this. Know many Chinese people and look at historically.

Rense: Pointed out what all they own around the globe. Corporatism. Chinese would exploit.

Clif: ON resource level., yes, would exploit. Competition... will go to calorie-based... in sense of all economics are calorie-based... e.g., farmers selling wheat.

Rense: Back to pies again.

Rense: Tomorrow will go down in history...

CLif: Nothing catastrophic... We will transcend ourselves... morphing in later years... transformation starts somewhere... political arena good place to get this going.

Rense: Like sports to Americans.

CLif: At end of cycles... can't expand on planet to send military to..

Rense: We know money is gone. Can't keep playing fairy games. Obama wants to move troops to Afgahistan.

Clif: What he wants is immaterial.... Just need to spend some thought...enough sunlight falls in world to power us for years.

With bio crops for fuel. Whole planet survives on top 6" of topsoil.

AT point now where elite aware of this and pre-conditioning people to ideas... e.g., Canada growing vast amounts of food in high rises.

Less than 100 high rise structures. Re-use materials. 100% vegan diet... can be done for reasonable capital amount.

In 2012 will align with milky way and huge energy not know impact on planet.

See the seed vaults built high enough for 400' sea level rise. And see buildings in Canada for food production. China/Japan, etc. mapping moon especially backside.

Planet facing crises making January crises look like nothing.
Rense: So much in alternative fuels suppressed.

CLif: Already seeing breaking down (of ability to suppress this)... Global economic collapse also see lots of people can't be bribed (those who are in the know)... won't be able to keep the whistle-blowers quiet. Starts in spring 2009.

Rense: Assume data correct... with clear cut victory tomorrow. Will survive next 4 years.

CLif: Will see melting in Antarctic. Elite spending a lot money looking for something down there. Secret.

Winter -- on climate level, will see only 2 seasons (winter and summer)... hot and wet vs. cold and wet.

Coming winter very extreme for east coast. Heat problems.

Earthquakes still being predicted for December. Large earth quakes Dec. 10 11 12

Great power points, sounds like the web bots have been busy spying on ATS for the past couple of years...

That's what I like about ATS, just read for about 20 minutes and you want to shoot yourself, lots of happy times ahead, very positive.

Thanks WEB BOT.

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That's right! ATS is always good for a DOOM fix!