predisposed, fair enough, they can see their legs, but can they tell if the cloth is black or red or blue? in low light every dark colour looks black.

OP, if you can tell us where the home town is and where he was coming from. there's no place that is like area 52 as such, or if it is i don't know about it. we might be able to offer an explanation as to what was going on.

have you asked your mum about the incident?

Loch ewe is a lot further north than Glasgow but it is an area for nuclear subs to dock ,maybe this is what he stumbled apon, although this area is clearly sign posted as an mod area.

The American government seem very keen on the idea of having sensitive facilities built into mountains,i can see no reason why the British government would'nt have the same idea.

However,without some more info from the OP,it is merely speculation.

See if you can dig up any place names please?

I go camping up in the highlands every year, the area is used extensively as a training area for the RAF. there are jets doing lowflying exersises all the time. I've seen helicopters but not a lot, and they do usually have lights. The only time Ive came across soldiers was when i inadvertantly walked onto an area being used for some training and the guy just told me i must have missed the sign. the signs are usually just at the roads was your granfather out walking across the moors.

he lived in speinbridge or something

who the hell tell somones to go away or they "will be shot"
Wouldnt it be alot more realistic if he was told to move along or he would be arrested or whatever

I can understand why noone knows where places in Scotland are relative to each other. Scotland is tiny - on my travels people have just expected it to be a matter of 30 minutes for me to drive from Aberdeen to London!

I have lived in a good few countries, lived in a few cities in Scotland and also in London for 8 years...if someone asks me to tell them where Birmingham, Liverpool or Manchester are on a blank map..I can't do it even with knowledge of the country.

I once told a boyfriend driving from north scotland that he had to drive through edinburgh to get from aberdeen to kirkcaldy...

Clueless!

My grandad was driving though up the highlands, midway north,east area, was a long time ago and due to my grandad taking alot of medication memory is not as good as it used to be,

However i wouldn't disapprove my grandad.

But it was like the 1980's or something, but i can remeber hime telling me going though up to the highlands to take a shortcut to somewhere, and went through a gat,, then helicopters came and did get forced to move from the site hence the shoot , very strict he said but i don't know as i was not there.

Originally posted by mtaftm
My grandad was driving though up the highlands, midway north,east area, was a long time ago and due to my grandad taking alot of medication memory is not as good as it used to be,

However i wouldn't disapprove my grandad.

But it was like the 1980's or something, but i can remember him telling me going though up to the highlands to take a shortcut to somewhere, and went through a gate,, then helicopters came and did get forced to move from the site hence the shoot , very strict he said but i don't know as i was not there.

Your grandad could very well be telling the truth, It's unlikely anything sinister was actually going on though. There are ALOT of military bases scattered all over Scotland, also there are numerous roads in the highlands which lead to places in middle of nowhere it can be pretty spooky.

It could be that a military exercise of some sort was going on e.g war games hence the "shooting" comment. Also as others have said, just security for a base or Royal family. There's also the possibility of the army looking for any spots which someone could easily trespass on their base although I'm sure this happens during the day.

Would be so much more easy if we had a more exact location, but to be fair there's so many of these places it really could be anywhere.

as people have said. i doubt there is anything sinister going on.
royal family visit.
RAF on a bombing sortie.
war games.
commando training.

in the absence of any clarification on the location [ and little hope that any will be forth coming ] , i think this thread has died

The location problem is hilarious!

No wonder y'all can't find that dang Nessie monster swimming around up there.

Wait wait wait!!! I got it.... how much Scotch did you drink during this story telling?

[edit on 8-7-2009 by THX-1138]

I live near Aberdeen. There are quite a few air bases and army barracks in Scotland but I don't know of any secret bases. But these days you never know. Your Grandad probably stumbled upon a wargame excercise or a secure area for the royal family. Remember the Queen is a 33rd degree patroness of the Illuminati aka the New World Order so she will be heavily guarded everytime she visits her castle Balmoral. During her stay MI5 and her security forces will have significant prescence up there.

As far as UFO's are concerned? I don't know of any sightings in the Highlands. But there is a lot near Stirling and some up the East Coast near Dundee and Arbroath. My wife witnessed one near Arbroath a while back. And there were reports of UFO's surveying the Oil platforms during the 70's and early 80's.

Also in the North Sea there was a lot of sightings of USO's in the 50's and 60's. Could be an underwater Alien base there. Just hope a Semi Submersible doesn't drop anchor and begin drilling through some Alien's living room........lol

Sorry it's been a long time since ive been with my grand dad, I'm with him now asking about the thing that happened in Scotland, the location on where about and what happened.

Basically from my recent story i was of the topic a little bit sorry guys.

Anyway this is what really happened i'm typing this as he is talking to me so it's a lot more accurate.

My Grandad was at Fort William heading up to Speinbridge, he stopped up Speinbridge for the night (speinbridge is where the commandos did there training during the second world war) from there he decided to go to Inverness the capital of the highlands in Bonnie Scotland, on the way up there he decided to take a shortcut through the b road, followed this road that seemed to be getting wilder and wilder in the countryside.

He ended up on the track way so he decided to turn left, on this track, he kept going on for 20 minutes, the track started to get thinner and thinner, so he pulled up this wood bit, stopped, next minute he was surrounded by military police.

Behind them, in front of them and at the side of them, they had weapons on them, there was a lot of shouting, they seemed quite angry with them, told them that they was on a top secret military base, my grandad and his brother terry calmed the kids down because they was crying due to the fact of that they was young and didn't know what was going on.

Warned them if you don't follow you will be shot on spot, so my grandad followed them to what looked like a small military base, that had strange equipment as well as strange looking dome buildings, they had to sign the offical secret act and they was excorted of the premises and was told to follow the track road and don't turn back.

My grandad says till this day he can't tell you where this location was and doesnt plan trying to go back there or find it either, this was 25-30 years ago.

Sorry guys for such a long time to post but now im with my grandad i thought i would get the full point story.

Cheers for your time and i am looking forward to your replies.
Mtaftm.

[edit on 15-7-2009 by mtaftm]

Have you seen the film, Dog Soldiers? If you had you would know that the S A S test new recruits in the Highlands as well as the Welsh hills. Perhaps thats what you stumbled across?