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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:07 PM by spec_ops_wannabe
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Methinks that with this stuff about calling winners with only 3% or what not is mainly the MSM competing with each other for viewers. Mixing crap in
with typical bending of truth. Also gets people irritated, myself included.
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:08 PM by Agit8dChop
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I disagree,
I think this current government has drive this economy in the wrong direction on purpose, for personal and corporate interests.
Now, if the next president redirected the countries focus to industry, domestic issues, production etc, then the public would embrace that government.
if you’ve been kicked in the face for so long, and someone finally comes along helps you and and points you in the right direction... your going to
appreciate and acknowledge that person.
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:08 PM by Nemithesis
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On Fox the electoral votes at 10pm EST are:
Obama 207
McCain 129
On CNN the electoral votes at 10pm EST are:
Obama 207
McCain 89
Maybe Americans are starting to focus on US issues rather than Israeli issues...
...could happen?
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:10 PM by vor78
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reply to post by Jenna
Some of them probably were called too early, but it doesn't matter. Of Ohio, Florida, Virginia and Pennsylvania, McCain needed three of the
four. It looks very much like he's going to go 0-4. Its over, he's done.
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:11 PM by Bunch
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For everyone that is wondering how a state is declared without the votes been counted, I just saw it tonight in Fox News, they use a formula that
takes into account many factors that right now I can not remember, but I they explain it tonight.
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:11 PM by truth_seeker3
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Face it...
President Obama. Democrats are taking a lead in the senate too. I predicted it within eight within the first hour of polls closeing.
ahaha
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:12 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation
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If McCain doesn't win California, he cannot win. But California? 
AAC
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:12 PM by Agit8dChop
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Originally posted by whaaa
They should have campaigned on the GOP accomplishments in the Whitehouse.
I agree, campaigning should only last a day or two! 
MSNBC
Obama - 207
Mccain - 135
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:14 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:15 PM by titian
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
I disagree,
I think this current government has drive this economy in the wrong direction on purpose, for personal and corporate interests.
Original Post:
You know, you're right; but remember that 3 out of 4 of the top members of congress who grew their wealth this year are Democrats. That's not
saying anything other than neither party is innocent here.
Edit to correct (too much wine):
In the House of Representatives, Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., ranks No. 1, with $397 million, followed by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., with $343
million. Rep Robin Hayes, R-N.C., ranks third, with $173.4 million. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., ranks sixth, with $62 million.
In the Senate, the two Democrats from Massachusetts claimed two of the top three spots.
Sen. John Kerry led the pack, with $336 million, while Sen. Edward M. Kennedy ranked third, with $104 million. Sen. Herb Kohl, D-Wis., ranked second,
with $241.5 million. Overall, senators had a median net worth estimated at $1.7 million.
Source: Members of Congress got 13 percent richer in
2007
If anything, this should be a wakeup call for the independent movement. I am convinced that the two-party system is dead.
[edit on 11/4/2008 by titian]
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:16 PM by Aislin
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Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
reply to post by Agit8dChop
McCain's camp just conceded. 10:14 Eastern Time.
AAC
Where did you see that?
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:18 PM by Jenna
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It is possible that you are right. My point is only that they are calling many of these states without any precincts reporting and that doesn't make
a darn bit of sense. Polls can and frequently are wrong. In this case, they may be perfectly right I'm not denying that. But it simply doesn't make
sense to call a state for either candidate without any of the precincts reporting.
reply to post by truth_seeker3
I'm sorry, that contributed to the discussion how? I mean really. Yes by the end of the night Obama may, and probably will, win. But all of the
results aren't in yet and your post was simply bad form.
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:18 PM by Agit8dChop
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Where
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How?
where did you hear he condeded?
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:19 PM by truth_seeker3
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Ya, where the hell did you get that. I have no record anywhere of that
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:19 PM by carewemust
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Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
reply to post by Agit8dChop
McCain's camp just conceded. 10:14 Eastern Time.
AAC
So is this thread closing down now? Nothing more to see here folks?
At least I didn't have to stay up until midnight like in 2004.
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:19 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation
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FOX News just showcased the campaign manager stating they "concede that there is no viable road that can put McCain at 270."
AAC
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:21 PM by marker3221
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Where did you get that info?
No reporting of such an event - that would be plastered all over every station & webpages
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:22 PM by greeneyedleo
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Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
reply to post by Aislin
FOX News just showcased the campaign manager stating they "concede that there is no viable road that can put McCain at 270."
AAC
WHAT? I have had FOX on = all day.....
I didnt hear this. It must have happened VERY FAST as I left the room for a few seconds.
Seriously?
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:23 PM by Bunch
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The Fox News talking heads are already conceding that Obama won, and not in a graceful manner I should say.
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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 09:23 PM by asmeone2
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Cnn. Com:
Obama builds momentum
Barack Obama is on target to win Ohio, Iowa and New Mexico, CNN projects. Those three states went for President Bush in 2004. Two senior aides to John
McCain see "no path to victory," given the results so far.
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