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Did Einstein help toward creating the Atom Bomb?

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posted on Mar, 29 2004 @ 11:04 PM
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I was wondering if anyone knew to what extent did Albert Einstein participate in the Manhattan Project or if he even participated in the project.

I remember him sending a letter to FDR that the Nazis have successfully completed atmoic fission of uranium, which is the first part toward creating the atom bomb, but did he help in the Manhattan project?




posted on Mar, 29 2004 @ 11:05 PM
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I haven't read much into it but wasn't it Einstein's equations that made some of it possible?



posted on Mar, 29 2004 @ 11:07 PM
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I haven't read much into it but wasn't it Einstein's equations that made some of it possible?


Do you know which one? I don't remember anything of Einstein's equations coming into the play in creating the atom bomb?



posted on Mar, 29 2004 @ 11:08 PM
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Yes, E=mc2 allowed them to build the bomb.

Albert Einstein was able to see where an understanding of this formula would lead. Although peaceful by nature and politics, he helped write a letter to the President of the United States, urging him to fund research into the development of an atomic bomb ... before the Nazis or Japan developed their own first. The result was the Manhatten Project, which did in fact produce the first tangible evidence of ... the atomic bomb!

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[Edited on 29-3-2004 by kinglizard]



posted on Mar, 29 2004 @ 11:14 PM
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Therefore Albert Einstein intiated the process of creating the nuclear bomb, but he didn't do anything else to help the Manhattan Project? i.e. help the scientists involved in the Manhattan in understanding what his formula meant, firsthand?

Was Einstein popular during his exile in US? Because it seems that the President took his word and started a 2 billion dollar project. Or was it because of other reasons too?



posted on Mar, 29 2004 @ 11:16 PM
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The Allies were aware of the German effort to develope the A-bomb. It became a race. The rest is history.



posted on Mar, 29 2004 @ 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
The Allies were aware of the German effort to develope the A-bomb. It became a race. The rest is history.


Interesting. Did the Germans knew of the Allied effort to develop the Atom Bomb?



posted on Mar, 29 2004 @ 11:18 PM
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Here is something that you might useful:


Albert Einstein did not directly participate in the invention of the atomic bomb. But as we shall see, he was instrumental in facilitating its development.

In 1905, as part of his Special Theory of Relativity, he made the intriguing point that a large amount of energy could be released from a small amount of matter. This was expressed by the equation E=mc2 (energy = mass times the speed of light squared). The atomic bomb would clearly illustrate this principle.

But bombs were not what Einstein had in mind when he published this equation. Indeed, he considered himself to be a pacifist. In 1929, he publicly declared that if a war broke out he would "unconditionally refuse to do war service, direct or indirect... regardless of how the cause of the war should be judged." (Ronald Clark, "Einstein: The Life and Times", pg. 428). His position would change in 1933, as the result of Adolf Hitler's ascent to power in Germany. While still promoting peace, Einstein no longer fit his previous self-description of being an "absolute pacifist".

Einstein's greatest role in the invention of the atomic bomb was signing a letter to President Franklin Roosevelt urging that the bomb be built. The splitting of the uranium atom in Germany in December 1938 plus continued German aggression led some physicists to fear that Germany might be working on an atomic bomb. Among those concerned were physicists Leo Szilard and Eugene Wigner. But Szilard and Wigner had no influence with those in power. So in July 1939 they explained the problem to someone who did: Albert Einstein. According to Szilard, Einstein said the possibility of a chain reaction "never occurred to me", altho Einstein was quick to understand the concept (Clark, pg. 669+; Spencer Weart & Gertrud Weiss Szilard, eds., "Leo Szilard: His Version of the Facts", pg. 83). After consulting with Einstein, in August 1939 Szilard wrote a letter to President Roosevelt with Einstein's signature on it. The letter was delivered to Roosevelt in October 1939 by Alexander Sachs, a friend of the President. Germany had invaded Poland the previous month; the time was ripe for action. That October the Briggs Committee was appointed to study uranium chain reactions.

But the Briggs Committee moved very slowly, prompting Einstein, Szilard, and Sachs to write to FDR in March 1940, pointing again to German progress in uranium research (Weart & Szilard, pg. 119+). In April 1940 an Einstein letter, ghost-written by Szilard, pressed Briggs Committee chairman Lyman Briggs on the need for "greater speed" (Weart & Szilard, pg. 125+; Clark, pg. 680).

Research still proceeded slowly, because the invention of the atomic bomb seemed distant and unlikely, rather than a weapon that might be used in the current war. It was not until after the British MAUD Report was presented to FDR in October 1941 that a more accelerated pace was taken. This British document stated that an atomic bomb could be built and that it might be ready for use by late 1943, in time for use during the war (Richard Rhodes, "The Making of the Atomic Bomb", pg. 377+).

Einstein biographer Ronald Clark has observed that the atomic bomb would have been invented without Einstein's letters, but that without the early U.S. work that resulted from the letters, the a-bombs might not have been ready in time to use during the war on Japan (Clark, pg. 682-683).

The atomic bomb related work that Einstein did was very limited and he completed it in two days during December 1941. Vannevar Bush, who was coordinating the scientific work on the a-bomb at that time, asked Einstein's advice on a theoretical problem involved in separating fissionable material by gaseous diffusion. But Bush and other leaders in the atomic bomb project excluded Einstein from any other a-bomb related work. Bush didn't trust Einstein to keep the project a secret: "I am not at all sure... [Einstein] would not discuss it in a way that it should not be discussed." (Clark, pg. 684-685; G. Pascal Zachary, "Endless Frontier: Vannevar Bush, Engineer of the American Century", pg. 204).

As the realization of nuclear weapons grew near, Einstein looked beyond the current war to future problems that such weapons could bring. He wrote to physicist Niels Bohr in December 1944, "when the war is over, then there will be in all countries a pursuit of secret war preparations with technological means which will lead inevitably to preventative wars and to destruction even more terrible than the present destruction of life." (Clark, pg. 698).

The atomic bombings of Japan occurred three months after the surrender of Germany, whose potential for creating a Nazi a-bomb had led Einstein to push for the development of an a-bomb for the Allies. Einstein withheld public comment on the atomic bombing of Japan until a year afterward. A short article on the front page of the New York Times contained his view: "Prof. Albert Einstein... said that he was sure that President Roosevelt would have forbidden the atomic bombing of Hiroshima had he been alive and that it was probably carried out to end the Pacific war before Russia could participate." ("Einstein Deplores Use of Atom Bomb", New York Times, 8/19/46, pg. 1). Einstein later wrote, "I have always condemned the use of the atomic bomb against Japan." (Otto Nathan & Heinz Norden, editors, "Einstein on Peace", pg. 589).

In November 1954, five months before his death, Einstein summarized his feelings about his role in the creation of the atomic bomb: "I made one great mistake in my life... when I signed the letter to President Roosevelt recommending that atom bombs be made; but there was some justification - the danger that the Germans would make them." (Clark, pg. 752).



posted on Mar, 29 2004 @ 11:29 PM
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Surfup: "Interesting. Did the Germans knew of the Allied effort to develop the Atom Bomb?" Yes, therefore a race. I believe, correct me if I'm wrong gang, but the Germans had trouble developing "heavy water" necessary to contain the uranium.



posted on Mar, 29 2004 @ 11:41 PM
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Thanks for your explanation nyarlathotep. That answers my question.

Wasn't there another German person who was in the Manhattan Project, his name escapes my mind?

Interip: I think you are right, but I am just guessing. I believe that the Germans didn't create the A-Bomb before U.S., because their factories were bombed and Hitler didn't think much of the A-Bomb.



posted on Mar, 29 2004 @ 11:50 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Einstein didn't even really write the letters... he just signed them. If I remember what I had read, one of Einstein's colleuges(sp) or something wrote the letter and convinced Einstein to sign it. Basically came down to that Einstein was pretty much able to just walk in the whitehouse whenever he wanted, so his signature would have a greater impact and be taken a whole lot more seriously than the person who wrote the letter.

Again, correct me if I am wrong on this... I'm just reciting from memory here.



posted on Mar, 30 2004 @ 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by intrepid
Surfup: "Interesting. Did the Germans knew of the Allied effort to develop the Atom Bomb?" Yes, therefore a race. I believe, correct me if I'm wrong gang, but the Germans had trouble developing "heavy water" necessary to contain the uranium.



Well we destroyed all there heavy Water facilities,
Best one was in Belgium and the Belgium Underground worked with the US to scales moutains in the snow to take out the plant This stuff was straight outta James bond. Not one shot was fired and the plant was destroyed Put about a year on the A bomb plans for Germ.



posted on Mar, 30 2004 @ 12:30 PM
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Surfup: "Wasn't there another German person who was in the Manhattan Project, his name escapes my mind? "

Robert Oppenheimer was director of the Manhatten Project. German name but born in NYC.



posted on Mar, 30 2004 @ 12:43 PM
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The physicist Albert Einstein did not directly participate in the invention of the atomic bomb. But as we shall see, he was instrumental in facilitating its development.

In 1905, as part of his Special Theory of Relativity, he made the intriguing point that a large amount of energy could be released from a small amount of matter. This was expressed by the equation E=mc2 (energy = mass times the speed of light squared). The atomic bomb would clearly illustrate this principle.

But bombs were not what Einstein had in mind when he published this equation. Indeed, he considered himself to be a pacifist. In 1929, he publicly declared that if a war broke out he would "unconditionally refuse to do war service, direct or indirect... regardless of how the cause of the war should be judged." (Ronald Clark, "Einstein: The Life and Times", pg. 428). His position would change in 1933, as the result of Adolf Hitler's ascent to power in Germany. While still promoting peace, Einstein no longer fit his previous self-description of being an "absolute pacifist".

Einstein's greatest role in the invention of the atomic bomb was signing a letter to President Franklin Roosevelt urging that the bomb be built. The splitting of the uranium atom in Germany in December 1938 plus continued German aggression led some physicists to fear that Germany might be working on an atomic bomb. Among those concerned were physicists Leo Szilard and Eugene Wigner. But Szilard and Wigner had no influence with those in power. So in July 1939 they explained the problem to someone who did: Albert Einstein. According to Szilard, Einstein said the possibility of a chain reaction "never occurred to me", altho Einstein was quick to understand the concept (Clark, pg. 669+; Spencer Weart & Gertrud Weiss Szilard, eds., "Leo Szilard: His Version of the Facts", pg. 83). After consulting with Einstein, in August 1939 Szilard wrote a letter to President Roosevelt with Einstein's signature on it. The letter was delivered to Roosevelt in October 1939 by Alexander Sachs, a friend of the President. Germany had invaded Poland the previous month; the time was ripe for action. That October the Briggs Committee was appointed to study uranium chain reactions.


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posted on Mar, 30 2004 @ 02:33 PM
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Is it true that the a German mathematician did an small error early on in the project, which pushed the project a year late?



posted on Mar, 30 2004 @ 02:34 PM
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Surfup, check out my post in changing energy to matter.



posted on Mar, 31 2004 @ 07:53 PM
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Another question about the Atom Bomb. How many bombs did U.S. have during WW2? 3 or 4 including the one tested in New Mexico.

Cobra, I did. Thanks



posted on Mar, 31 2004 @ 08:04 PM
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wasn't it proven that einstein didn't come up with E=MC2? It was some italian guy, the difference was that Einstein was able to decipher what was going on. I remember watching a program with one of the scientists from the manhatten project, and I memory serves me right, the scientists didn't know that the atomic bomb would be used, nonetheless kill all those japanese. If they had known what would happen, it the scientists would have refused to work on tjhe project. I really wish i could remember the program. I think the guy they were interviewing had died, that's why they were airing it.



posted on Apr, 1 2004 @ 07:56 PM
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wasn't it proven that einstein didn't come up with E=MC2? It was some italian guy, the difference was that Einstein was able to decipher what was going on.


No it wasn't proved. It is a pity that a man who has such great qualities don't get recognized by people like you.


You are right about the scientists not knowing about the bomb, till the bomb was tested on New Mexico it was a scientific project, after that it became a weapon of war.



posted on Apr, 2 2004 @ 04:06 PM
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What is ironic about the A-bomb was that it was built mostly by the very people that hitler chased out of germany.

If it was not for his fanatical hatered of Jews he would have had the bomb and most of us would be speaking German right now.........LOL



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