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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 07:05 PM by drphilxr
reply to post by Anonymous ATS


I AM SERIOUSLY IMPRESSED, as a physician this is news to me,

and i wonder why we haven't heard about this on the front page of the NEJM

by now. If the journal Nature published this, it is real.

Too bad this came out well after my dad died from pancreatic ca this march.

I tried him on gastrocrom (investigational) to no effect as i could only get

the oral form, not the experimental IV solution from MD Anderson (and i'm an MD)

So, i would highly advise everyone to star this post, and FORWARD IT TO ANY/ALL

FRIENDS who have loved ones with cancer!

peace,

dr phil x-ray


reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 10:10 PM by pickles123
I think that doing this though will have very devastating effects, or maybe might just wake people up (although if I recall correctly that statistic was about psychopharmaceuticals and is unrelated to cancer --I'm sorry to have drifted the thread). I encourage people to research this themselves if anything.

I don't know if I should be sharing this anymore, but I might as well keep things in context. I know this is turning into a rant and I apologize but here is how I understand it to work:

Institutions fund drug research to solve real problems, however it is positive results which get published. Drugs take about 8 or 9 years on average to reach the market, however I am also not saying they are all bad or good. Some drugs work on some people. When a new anti-depressant for example hits the market and is often patented, it is marketed in the mass media like television or magazines toward physicians and the general population, sending us messages that there may be something incomplete in our lives, the drug companies are simply selling you a product. In journals, physicians don't read the articles with negative results because they just don't get published. It is not their fault. What's worse though, is that once doctors are allowed to prescribe a medication, they can prescribe it for different purposes than what it was originally intended for. I am not critiquing doctors or physicians in their right to do so, but I simply feel we do not know enough about them. A couple summers ago, a girl from my graduating class lost her life to anti-depressants despite the studies even showing that they are dangerous for young people yet it was still prescribed.

Please do not take what I say for granted. Do your own research and think about how North America is just overmedicated, like being asleep on soma.

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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 08:23 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Roufas

Sounds like the beginning of the movie "I am Legend", you know, where the lady scientist says they have cured cancer in 10,000 (don't remember the number in the movie) participants of a study. Unfortunately the 'cure' is not good...are we going to see zombie-like people walking around soon?!


reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 08:42 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by ToolFanMael

A cancer specialist makes money off of those who have cancer; hard to make money as a cancer specialist if no one has, or can be affected long-term by cancer. The greedy ones will say that it is bunk even if it works, so they can keep their paychecks rolling in. Those that really want to help will reserve judgment until such day as they become witnesses of this story's veracity. They will also truly hope that this report is correct.


reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 05:48 PM by woogleuk
reply to post by antibyte


The cure is found by the scientists, the universitys, not by the pharmacutical companies, and if just one of them patents it, the rest lose out, i may not be explaining my meaning right, i know what i mean, lol.


reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 10:37 PM by Zerbst
cancer, like any illness, is usually due to something lacking in diet. i personally believe, the human body is capable of healing itself of any disease or illness. all real cures come from natural sources and the evidence is everywhere.

there is a sizable amount of evidence that cancer is a vitamin b17 deficiency. if you look back at the statistics, cancer rates increased steadily as b17 was intentionally removed from our diets. b17 mixes with an enzyme produced, i believe, in the pancreas to create a tiny cyanide bomb. cancer cells have a particular coating that normal white cells cannot recognize, nor penetrate, leaving them unable to destroy the cancer. the b17/cyanide bomb blows off the coating allowing the white cell to recognize and destroy the bad cell.

b17 can be found in apple seeds, apricot seeds and various berries. i believe b17 is illegal in america, as our wonderful government probably worked very hard to remove it from our diet. i've read articles that they developed hybrid apricot seeds that do not produce the vitamin and only the fruits from these useless seeds are legal to grow or import to this country. long way to go for your pharma buddies, but hey, anything for a buck!

this also explains why animals in the wild don't get cancer. they say if you give an apricot to a monkey he will tear the flesh away to eat the seed. only animals we keep captive develop cancer. what a civilization!

jz


reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 11:02 PM by Teeky
reply to post by sos37


I agree there is a cure but anytime they start talking about letting the public have it we do need to be cautious.


reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 01:15 AM by Unlimitedpossibilities
reply to post by Zerbst


If all what you said is true then WOOOOW.

B17 is next on my list for research. Especially in my nearby health food stores. Thanks.


reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 03:04 AM by CSK222
REAL TALK: I feel for all that have this disease, truly, and if a cure is possible, well I just hope I'm around to see it help people.

However, for some reason, on this beautiful Wednesday night, in southern Canada the word cancer reminds me of the movie 'the Lion King'. The part when King Mufasa is explaining to Simba the cycle of life. (Hear me out on this. I'm trying to improve my ATS posting credit)

So, Simba wants to know what the cycle of life is,so he asks his father. King Mufasa explains (in so many words) that the other animals are part of the cycle just as we are, without them we cannot exist.

He goes on explaining to Simba that when an animal dies his body remnants will go back to the earth where new grass will grow, for others to eat and enjoy, just as we do with their remnants.

However, if the cycle is unbalanced, if we do not do our part, than Pride Rock's kingdom would be over populated. This would lead to the inevitable starvation and eventual death of everyone in the kingdom once all the resources are gone.

Simba now understands that not all of the animals can thrive. Some must perish in order for all to live.
After which Simba shrugs and finishes the rest of his BBQ pork Pumba ribs.

If you made it this far I THANK YOU. It's the best analogy I got for why the cancer cure will not be publicly announced or issued by docs. for a while, if ever.

BUT hey! theirs always the hope.

If you don't know what I'm talking a-boot (remember CDN.) just ask...
Big J.C. and The G-O-D. They can help ya better than I can.

Live
Laugh
Love
Learn
Let go
...........................................................................................................................and FIGHT!

-TheMeanSeen-


reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:40 AM by chameleon302
reply to post by Unlimitedpossibilities


B17 is the common name for Latrile, which is in essence cynide of sorts. I read up about it a long time ago...and it is legal in Mexico and they have treatment facilites set up down there to cure Americans with enough money to buy the (if I remember correctly) 10,000 dollar American per dose.

This is an informative article on b17...to add to your own research. Trust me if I thought it would help my terminal husband I'd be on the first plane to Mexico or where ever I could get it...I'd be squeezing apricot pits with my bare hands.
www.quackwatch.com...

www.quackwatch.com... I just found that and found that it says pretty much what I've said all along.

This is to the others in this thread: Vegan raw diets don't cure cancer. If you say they do show me proof...not stories told and passed around proof black and white evidence. Nor does Juicing, polstices, or slaying a chicken in the moonlight whilst facing eat and drinking the blood of virgins (willingly given of course). It is seductive to wish to try these alt therapies hoping when there is no real hope, but the reality of it is, that these alt therapies can cause more harm than good. It keeps people out of things that may really help, and ties up their resources which also keeps them away from things that might really help. I beg people who have cancer, or who are the advocate/caretakers (like me) not to fall prey to emotionalism. I know that is easier said than done, but if someone or something says they can cure you or your loved one demand proof..not allegory, but real black and white proof. Research every aspect of the disease specific to you or your loved one and become an unofficial expert on it. The truth is sometimes ugly, but noone is helped if it isn't stared at and confronted. Denial causes suffering.

Speaking to the advocates and caretakers, please understand that you are your loved ones best hope for comfort. It is your duty to stand up for them when they can not stand for themselves. If you allow yourself to be taken in by quasi-therapies you may be doing more harm than good. My advise is to reach out to people qualified in the field, ask questions of not only cancer doctors, but mental health professionals, physical therapists, massage therapists, cancer support groups, hospice, and any other profession that deals with this on a daily basis. You are going on an unique journey, but you aren't the first, and wont be the last. Our greatest responcibility is to see to their care and comfort. To make sure they do not suffer needlessly, aren't poked and proded more than absolutely needed, and make sure that their symptoms are addressed. That is our duty.

Hope=longer life, better quality of life, adding joy to what may be the end of life, and dignity.
False hope=denial which in turn means suffering.

If you think the cure that started this thread is worthy print it off and take it to a cancer center, talk to a Doctor about it...talk to two Doctors...and do that with ANY would be treatment you'd put in your body, or the body of another.

Peace out
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