Apparently cancer cure has been around for a while, page 2

reply to post by americandingbat

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Keep in mind that as much flak as medical researchers get for not promoting something like this in public, they get ten times as much flak if it turns out that this cures cancer only to kill you of liver failure, or something.

I recall quite a few drugs and vaccines being quietly taken off the market because they did exactly what you just said.

There was a major issue with Vicodin a few years back, if memory serves correctly. I will look for links to that.

The only excuse for this not being more widely known is, as another poster already stated, loss of revenue to the "cure for cancer" market. Yes, it really IS that horrible!!!



[edit on 3-11-2008 by ThatDGgirl]

Originally posted by ToolFanMael
I would love to hear what a cancer specialist would say to this.....

Here is what the American Cancer Society says about the org that the OP linked to...

Wiki

The American Cancer Society has reported that the National Health Federation promotes a wide range of unproven or dangerous cancer therapies, and has recommended that cancer patients avoid therapies and products promoted by the NHF. Quackwatch has criticized the NHF as a lobbying organization which promotes "nutritional fads, myths, and gimmicks", and described the legal difficulties of a number of leaders of the NHF.

Not saying the Gc-MAF ideas are invalid. It appears Yamamoto has managed to get a patent, and his name appears in several related articles.

Just sayin Caveat emptor


[edit on 11/3/08 by makeitso]

I'd really like it if this was true. My husband has terminal cancer you see, and little by little I am watching him die a slow and at times painful death. Our fight with cancer is costing us everything, not only my health, but him, and obviously we are losing...only able to buy him small incriments of time. (maybe)

The thing about passing information like this around is that people like me become habituated to 'cures' that come to us in emails and message boards. We've looked into Doctors that swore Laetrile therapy. See this and google for more information: www.cancer.gov...

And other such "All natural, miracle cures that have no side affects ect ect"
Which, to people like my husband I sounds like nirvana considering that the meds, chemo, and all the things now standard treatments cause sideaffects that, are at times, worse than the disease.

You hear of people who have been 'cured' of cancer by doing one or another alternative medical treatment. They claim these methods saved their life, but they don't tell you that prior to their *fill in the blank* treatment they did the standard chemo, radiation, and surgery...so they discount that the normal therapy cured them, and claim miracles with the 'secret cure the government supresses'.

Pardon me if I sound like a cynic about alt med treatment. If you have the great fortune and money to try anything people sell you be my guest. If you have nothing to lose, then well, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I wish you all the luck in the world.

We have been lucky enough to have access to what I consider to be one of the best standard treatment centers in the US. Cleveland Clinic. I believe that if there really were a cure for cancer, the doctor my husband sees would give it to him. The general population seems to think that doctors, insurance and Pharm companies and such want to withhold curative technologies. I think that is bunk. Insurance companies would save Billions (the average chemo cost being around 40,000 dollars a pop) while others claim big pharm companies supress it because it would mean losing those dollars themselves. I say to you there are more diseases they will continue to get rich curing or treating, not to mention the fact that they can still charge people for the cure whatever they want to, even if it is the most simple of compounds.

I guess all that being said I doubt seriously this cure is real. If it is tell me where to get it. I hope I can afford it for my husband if I could get it...We have nothing to lose. If this is just another snake oil, then really what kind of monsters pray on those who have no hope.

reply to post by americandingbat

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Yeah, I'll cop to misreading your post. Apologies, no attack intended. BUT, did anyone get fired after that vicodin business? And the vaccine you mentioned.... was that the one where many babies died (NY, NJ ??)? There were lawsuits. But those infernal pharmaceutical companies are virtually immune to prosecution! No pun intended! I'm sure we're both disgusted with it!

If anyone cares, heres the actual journal entry this article is talking about.


Immunotherapy of metastatic colorectal cancer with vitamin D-binding protein-derived macrophage-activating factor, GcMAF



Authors: Yamamoto, Nobuto1; Suyama, Hirofumi2; Nakazato, Hiroaki3; Yamamoto, Nobuyuki4; Koga, Yoshihiko5

Source: Cancer Immunology, Immunotherapy, Volume 57, Number 7, July 2008 , pp. 1007-1016(10)

Publisher: Springer

Journal Notes


Slightly interesting.

If there was a "cure" (and this is no cure) and people thought that big pharma couldn't capitalize on something like this, they would be dead wrong. This would be weekly for the rest of your life (as far as I see it).

This is more of a "cancer delay".

Has anyone Google mapped the address given in the essays?

Division of Cancer and Molecular Immunology, Socrates Institute for Therapeutic Immunology, 1040 66th Ave, Philadelphia, PA 19126-3305, USA Make sure to use the street view.

It appears to be someones house, not an "Institute".

Here is some info on the "institute".


[edit on 11/3/08 by makeitso]

I wonder if THC has the same abilities as this. I watched the following documentary a months weeks ago. Perhaps this is why this drug is illegal and other are not?

Run From The Cure

Very enlightening video.

reply to post by KidOK

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On a side note I have been researching alternative therapies and they all seem to go back to one thing: Increasing oxygen in the body.

Makes you wonder huh?

We know that cancer cells are much more glycolytic (the warbhurg effect) than normal cells, that is: They metabolize sugar for energy at a higher rate.

Ongoing research into Ketogenic Diets has been the product of the Warbhurg effect.

So, you probably hear that because the whole point of increasing oxygen is to have the body burn fat for energy by oxidating it. If your body only burns sugar in times of extreme, quick bursts of physical activity, it will burn fat at all other times, as long as insulin levels are low. The only way to control insulin levels safely is through diet.

-Dev

reply to post by Roufas

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I personally know a cancer research scientist. She would agree that the vast majority of cancer has been cured. Her work is really focused on finding medications with the lowest side effects.

However, that said, curing cancer does not in any way mean you will never die from it. The big problem is that you have to start you treatment at a time when you body isn't so heavily damaged that it will die. So while yes cancer is either mostly or completely cured, we have a while to go in actually *detecting* cancer early enough for that 100% treatment success rate, because again even if you 100% cure your cancer cells overnight you can still die from the residual damage. At least that is what the scientist I know told me, so I consider it to be reliable information.

reply to post by franspeakfree

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I just don't get this. This is pure Malthusian garbage. An increasing population, one that would strain the planet to it's ecological limit, would be an excellent thing for our species. It would drive us towards greater progress. Private investment would skyrocket in fields such as health, sanitation and more significantly, in automation, cybernetics, energy and technology. No, we would not gravitate toward war. International relations, and conflict resolution would reach the pinnacle of their success. Governments would invest in social welfare and there would be an elimination of the bureaucracy. Stress only makes us more efficient; that has been the maxim of all human behavior since before the agricultural revolution, before civilization...

These ignorant men who have never picked up a book in their lives are perpetuating a system of self depredation and despair. They are unaware of history, and by consequence, incapable of prognosis of future trends.

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