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Health and safety chiefs ban poetry group

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posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 02:36 AM
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Health and safety nazis ban poetry group


www.ananova.com

A poetry group has been banned from performing in its local pub - on health and safty grounds.

The Royal Standard in Ely, Cambs, has been threatened with a £5,000 fine because it has an entertainment licence for only singing and not speaking.
(visit the link for the full news article)


*Mod Edit: The title of the news article referred to must be used within Breaking News. Have editted the title to what it was. Cheers.



[edit on 3-11-2008 by alien]




posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 02:36 AM
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Erm, what happened to common sense in this country? Is this really all the councils have to worry about? A bunch of old-timers reading poetry to each other can somehow translate to a £5k fine?

A minor issue, I know, but representative of the wider problem, IMO.

Wow we have to put in a lot of text for our own opinion don't we - it's almost like they think ATS'ers waffle a lot!

www.ananova.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 03:02 AM
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All I can think is, somebody obviously didn't think to pay off the right local politicians


This is the kind of stuff that (I can attest having worked in the nightclub business) they use to shake people down...



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 03:06 AM
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Don't lie Benjamin in your post, please. The real title says: Health and safety chiefs ban poetry group

MODERATORS: Please modify the title, because the title of the thread is misleading completely. There are no Nazis in the article, not even in it's title. It's just holding the personal distorted opinion of the OP, which is not making this breaking news to objective, but it's very manipulative.

On to topic. Benjamin. Please tell me where the Nazis are in this article? So?

P.S.: A moderator have been alerted in this matter.

[edit on 3-11-2008 by Sheridan]



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 03:25 AM
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Analogous...



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 04:59 AM
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Originally posted by Sheridan
Don't lie Benjamin in your post, please. The real title says: Health and safety chiefs ban poetry group

MODERATORS: Please modify the title, because the title of the thread is misleading completely. There are no Nazis in the article, not even in it's title. It's just holding the personal distorted opinion of the OP, which is not making this breaking news to objective, but it's very manipulative.

On to topic. Benjamin. Please tell me where the Nazis are in this article? So?

P.S.: A moderator have been alerted in this matter.

[edit on 3-11-2008 by Sheridan]


Wow, I bet you are just sooo much fun at parties.

Yes, I was using the word "nazi" as a pejorative term to denote any person of fascist disposition. I suppose that could be misleading to people unfamiliar with context and social commentary.



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 05:28 AM
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easily gotten round all they need to do is sing the poems, they have a licence for that

not a one liner
definetley not
at least three



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 05:28 AM
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Actually you're using a label what about we clearly see you don't have the clue what does it mean in the reality.

Nazi = short term of Nacionalsocialist

Is there any national socialist in the article? Definitely not. Is there any SS or Hitler fan in the article? Definitely not. Is there any Jews whose interest was hurt in this incident? Definitely not or maybe, but who cares? This case isn't based on racial or cultural difference. So, what do you do? Misleading the readers with a phrase, which has no connection to it.

So, please don't misuse a term for an event, which has no connection to it at all. Thanks.

P.S.: Thanks moderator for the title change.

[edit on 3-11-2008 by Sheridan]



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by Sheridan
Actually you're using a label what about we clearly see you don't have the clue what does it mean in the reality.

Nazi = short term of Nacionalsocialist

Is there any national socialist in the article? Definitely not. Is there any SS or Hitler fan in the article? Definitely not. Is there any Jews whose interest was hurt in this incident? Definitely not or maybe, but who cares? This case isn't based on racial or cultural difference. So, what do you do? Misleading the readers with a phrase, which has no connection to it.

So, please don't misuse a term for an event, which has no connection to it at all. Thanks.

P.S.: Thanks moderator for the title change.

[edit on 3-11-2008 by Sheridan]



Interestingly "nazi" has entered the pop-culture lexicon as a reference to a fascist, also.

And upon checking dictionary.reference.com... it turns out I am correct. Have a read, I'm sure you'll enjoy point #3.

So, do you want to keep being an incorrect-definition nazi or are you just going to accept you might be wrong, on this count?



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 07:23 AM
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I'm not interested in the fake meaning of the word: Nazi. If some idiot, who don't even know what does it mean, faked it as many idiot with great inferiority complex are usually doing at wikipedia, I don't care. The meaning is still national socialist (German National Socialist to be precise), regardless what you figure out. Also, in the article there are no facists too, so try something else.

If you want to scream Nazi and fascist day by day where are none, create phantom enemies because some inferior complexity dictates, take a deep breath, go out to the front yard and scream it loudly. Then at least someone will came after you and will give you a nice white leather jacket before they would escort you to a calm and peaceful place where only your shadow will hunt you.

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posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by Sheridan
I'm not interested in the fake meaning of the word: Nazi.


My goodness, aren't you the epitome of the screaming anti-progressive lobby?

I suppose when presented with evidence of your own ignorance, the only option is to descend further into ignorance! Good job!


Originally posted by SheridanIf some idiot, who don't even know what does it mean, faked it as many idiot with great inferiority complex are usually doing at wikipedia, I don't care. The meaning is still national socialist (German National Socialist to be precise), regardless what you figure out. Also, in the article there are no facists too, so try something else.


Blimey! You certainly think your opinion is more valid than any other, despite appearing like an over-blown buffoon.


Originally posted by SheridanIf you want to scream Nazi and fascist day by day where are none, create phantom enemies because some inferior complexity dictates, take a deep breath, go out to the front yard and scream it loudly. Then at least someone will came after you and will give you a nice white leather jacket before they would escort you to a calm and peaceful place where only your shadow will hunt you.[edit on 3-11-2008 by Sheridan]


Do you even listen to yourself? Phantom enemies? Accusing me of an inferiority complex?

And frankly, I don't care what you don't care about. The English language is not yours alone, and if other people choose to use words in other ways, and it is accepted as a definition - even if it was in pop culture alone - then who do you think you are to tell them they are wrong?

You freaking language nazi.

[edit]Oh my! Even the Oxford dictionary has nazi as a pejorative term meaning "2 derogatory a person with extreme racist or authoritarian views". Mon dieu! Incredibly even the Cambridge dictionary has this definition too! But you don't care, you've dictated what the word nazi means and can only mean, and the world must dance to your tune! You are the master of language here, not the people who write silly inconvienences such as dictionaries!

[edit on 3-11-2008 by C.C.Benjamin]



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 08:35 AM
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Good going guys.

Seeing as you have both dragged what is actually quite an interesting story off topic, I feel I can join in.

Will you both stop it? This is prime example of ATS at its worst - all about ego...

Get over yourselves.

Neither of you is as clever as you think, and I for one am saddened to see something interesting turned into a pseudo-intellectual dance off.

Grow up and discuss the thread - not each other, children.

Peace,

MGGG



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by machinegun_go_go
Good going guys.

Seeing as you have both dragged what is actually quite an interesting story off topic, I feel I can join in.

Will you both stop it? This is prime example of ATS at its worst - all about ego...

Get over yourselves.

Neither of you is as clever as you think, and I for one am saddened to see something interesting turned into a pseudo-intellectual dance off.

Grow up and discuss the thread - not each other, children.

Peace,

MGGG


I'd apologise but I was using the dictionary definition of the word.



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 08:54 AM
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The T & C apparently does state that the title of the thread must match the article so really it's the T & C Nazis that put the boot to you not the lexicographic Nazis.

On a related note inspired by another poster suggesting poems be sung, what about rap? Where does that fit in the singing spectrum according to the law? If music is played in the background, does that qualify?



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by EnlightenUp
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The T & C apparently does state that the title of the thread must match the article so really it's the T & C Nazis that put the boot to you not the lexicographic Nazis.

On a related note inspired by another poster suggesting poems be sung, what about rap? Where does that fit in the singing spectrum according to the law? If music is played in the background, does that qualify?


To be fair, there are plenty of threads that don't do that!

But I like your use of the lingo!



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 09:00 AM
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What's the topic?



Just a friendly reminder...

Mod Note: Stay on Topic – Please Review This Link.

In case it has been forgotten, the topic is:
Health and safety chiefs ban poetry group



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 09:02 AM
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well put enlighten up, maybe the thread can go back on track. i'm sure that if they have an entertainment licence that would cover all types of music, singing etc. seems like in this 'PC gone mad world' that words have to be very specific both in licence applications and in the titles of threads on here.







 
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