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reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 10:46 PM by baseball101
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ya i agree it's kind of scary considering the government doesn't really have any regards to what they're 'risking', i wonder what they don't do because it's too risky ... very good ?



reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 11:04 PM by dr_strangecraft
I have been widely mocked on ATS for posting that the CIA and state department have been disloyal to the Bush whitehouse to the point of treason.

The CIA has routinely leaked white house strategy notes to members of congress, as well as the substance of anti-terrorism investigations.

Colin Powell was basically fired from Secretary of State for misrepresenting the case for invasion to the UN. It was he who insisted that the invasion of Iraq was to search for weapons of mass distruction; others, such as Rice, had always argued that the only causus Beli for the invasion was Saddam's refusal to submit to the terms of the 1991 cease-fire/surrender document.

It is obvious to an objective observer that the CIA itself orchestrated the abuses at Abu Ghraib that caused so much embarrasment for the white house. Lindie England, the only officer tried in the investigation, repeatedly testified that she was following the orders of "civilian contractors" who place themeselves in authority over her. Her testimony regarding the contracters was repeatedly stricken from the record or suppressed. It was these contractors who suggested that all army personnel with actual MP training be transferred away from the prison, so that the army fall guys would be less likely to refuse on ethical grounds, since they'd had no training as MP's.

The whole "plame scandal" was a CIA-manufactured "gotcha moment" that Rove narrowly avoided stepping into. The fact is that Plame was not a "secret agent" of the CIA meant that Rove didn't commit a crime by revealing the name---also because plame was not secret about the work, either. And what was plame supposedly doing?----looking for sales of yellow cake uranium from africa to iraq--what a coincidence--the very same investigation that turned out to be completely bogus, yet one which the CIA kept insisting bush mention in his state of the union address!

The CIA-supported 9/11 commision is another example of the CIA's attempt to exonerate the Clinton whitehouse of gross ineptitude, meanwhile tarring Bush with the same brush.

And then bush even caved into the CIA's wildest demand--that CIA be put in charge of the FBI and the whole US intelligence community, both foreign and domestic. This greatly reduces the chance that ANY future president will really be in control at the CIA.

The CIA has become an organ of the Democrat party. Imagine what it would mean for another supposedly non-partisan government agency, say the GAO, to refuse to serve the president they answer to. you can imagine the chaos this must create.

The CIA is rapidly becoming a new praetorian guard. IF they are not stopped soon, THEIR vote will be the only one that matters in selecting future presidents.

all the best.


reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 11:30 PM by Hastobemoretolife
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There is no telling this is our government.

Dr. Strangcraft's story just kind of cemented my thought on Bush being set up to fail ever sense he took office. Makes sense too.

Bush 41 was the director of the CIA at one time. Bush 43 seems like he might have been the black sheep of the family and the CIA set him up.

what also makes sense is who would really benefit from the Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act. The CIA would, and Bush putting them in charge of the FBI and all those groups is icing on the cake.

I'll stop here to keep from going to far off topic.

The risks I'm thinking of are more of 'suicide' missions. The CIA can already operate inside the US even though they aren't supposed too. McCain also did 5 years as a POW I think the last thing he wants to see is Americans needlessly being spied on and if the CIA went rouge then well we have our answer.
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