The Enemy Within:US Female Soldiers Raped., page 9
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reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 11:21 AM by Prometheus Ascendent
reply to post by jakyll



Its also bodes ill for the future.America will not be remembered in most of the world for all the good it has done.Instead,when the US is mentioned many people will think of things like this and they will shake their head in disgust.


Sadly, while I'm not blind to the weaknesses of mankind and not forgotten what good your country has done, its sad to see this happening still, in the land of the free.

okay...was the land of the free....and I hope it will be the land of the free again.


reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 04:59 PM by jakyll
reply to post by poet1b



A bigot is someone who is intolerant of another's views and opinions.The term can also be used to describe someone who sticks to their guns even when their views have proven to be false.Have the facts in the articles been proven as false? Are the figures reported by the Department of Defense false? Are all the reports from the House Homeland Security false? Are all the testimonies of soldiers given under oath false too?

It seems there are more facts than you are comfortable with.


reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 06:19 PM by jakyll
reply to post by Blue_Jay33



Yeah,you said.

If these men are as you described;


These men have no morals or ability to control their evil urges.


Then they are rapists,not just someone who cannot help themselves.No man becomes a rapist just because he can't get his rocks off.And to use the excuse of having no money is pitiful,at best.



reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 06:39 PM by amazed
Originally posted by calihan123
Of course women are going to get raped. These men are stuck over there for months, or years at a time with no contact with women.. if one comes in site, you better believe they are going to rape her.

That is a sad reality of having women in the service. But they should know the dangers of that happening, before they decide to become a soldier. How could they they not know that would happen?

Men are very sexual. When you take that away from them.. they do things they wouldnt normally do. Sex literally can control them. So whereas they wouldnt rape a woman in normal life, over there they do because sex is taken away from them.



Sorry, I don't agree with you, men make a "choice" to rape, that's all. Yes, these men would rape a woman in normal life if they felt that they could get away with it. Where they are they know they can "get away with it', and so they make the choice to commit harm upon another person.

Men make this choice, it is not forced upon them. Women should not have to change their lifestyle or choices because of a fear of "men".

Your statement, weather you know it or not, makes what these men are doing "ok" and "justifiable" as they are just men and it is what men do when blah blah blah.

You give them an excuse to grab hold of and say yeah yeah that's why we do it. While they snicker behind their hands going "ain't it great, now even this woman is giving us excuses for raping women."

You are part of the problem, men should not be given an excuse for harmful behavior, and you give them exactly that an excuse.


reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 07:10 PM by jakyll
reply to post by carewemust




Everyone here is reacting as if these stories of mass rape were true.
Don't you think that if intra-military rape in Iraq was rampant, the
mainstream media would be all over this story with front page
headlines. Afterall, ABC, NBC & CBS used to thrive on reporting
abuses in Iraq, death counts...anything to make their/our country
look bad.




Are you serious?

Things like this get covered up,thats why when the first reports appeared in 2004 there has been a media blackout until now,4yrs later.

After the controversy of the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse and the soldiers arrested for raping Iraqi women,do you really believe that the government would allow full media coverage of this?



As far as I'm concerned, if the MainStreamMedia is not drooling over


The mainstream media hasn't been drooling over the atrocities in Sudan,but they're happening and have been since 2003.


reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 07:41 PM by Blue_Jay33
reply to post by amazed



From that point view you are correct about the power aspect.

Certain situations are more likely to lead to a man using his physical power to overcome and rape a woman than others.

Too much to drink for example and being around scantly clad women all evening, might make a man behave differently than if he was sober and around women in winter cloths. Certain visuals create micro sexual tension, that keep adding up, and a mans self control becomes more challanged as this happens.

On the physical power, the point is taken, that is obvious. The mental part is a completely different story.

One rapist said he literally lost his mind for a few moments, he never understood what came over him in that moment. But it is a choice, a choice that gives into the dark side of depravity and evil.

However there is an overwhelming overriding embedded force that compels most men to fulfill their biological destiny by mating with women, some men literally lose their minds to fulfill that destiny, whatever the cost.

Rape is the ultimate cost to the man and even more so the poor victim.

There is no excuse for evil like this, none. It is wrong 100% of the time.
I am just trying to explain it. And if you understand the nature of sin and it's full scope you gain further insight as well.

I had to do a ton of research on this once when a friend got date raped a few years back, it was so tragic and sad. But it gave me a better understanding that I never had before.
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