The Enemy Within:US Female Soldiers Raped., page 2
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reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 03:29 PM by jakyll
calihan123


Of course women are going to get raped. These men are stuck over there for months, or years at a time with no contact with women.. if one comes in site, you better believe they are going to rape her.


What a disgusting attitude.
And what of the men who are raped and sexually abused by other men in the armed forces?? There is women around so why don't they attack them instead??




ATS4dummies


To be brutally honest, sorry, it does come fom being horney.


This is wrong.
Rape is an act of violence.It is fueled by lust,a lust to harm,to degrade,to control,to instill fear.Being horny has sod all to do with it.




Sonya610


I don't know, I do believe rapes occur, absolutely. But the bit about women not drinking and dying of dehydration sounds too odd. Maybe those women had mental health issues or something that caused the behavior.


The only mental problems they have is the fear of being raped.


I simply cannot believe they were incapable of finding other female soldiers, or sympathetic male soldiers that would walk with them to the bathrooms at night.


If you read the articles properly you will see that commanding officers told women not to go to the bathroom alone.But there will always be times when you can't find someone to do that.Just like people who have to walk home alone at night through a rough neighbourhood,they can't always get a friend to walk with them.


Plus sheesh they could have peed in a cup if it came down to it. Surely they knew that lack of water would kill them far faster than anything else.


Women do.But the water isn't on tap,it comes from a supply tent.This makes it easier for pills to be put into the water.





Vault-D


It's clearly not a real news item.


Related to...
Spurred by the rising number of women speaking out, Air Force Secretary John Roche made a rare visit to the school last week to address 2,000 cadets, warning that he would "not tolerate" rapists or a culture that accepted sexual harassment at the academy. "There are now many questions about the character of all Air Force Academy cadets and recent graduates due to reported sexual assaults — clearly criminal acts — by a dangerous minority."

www.time.com...

Nearly 12 percent of the women who graduated from the United States Air Force Academy this year were the victims of rape or attempted rape in their four years at the academy in Colorado Springs, with the vast majority never reporting the incidents to the authorities, according to a survey by the inspector general of the Defense Department.

query.nytimes.com...



reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 03:36 PM by dampnickers
Originally posted by kattraxx
reply to post by calihan123


From the Dept. of Justice... and if you're inclined to search, any and every reliable source of information of the subject will say the same.

Rape Myths

Despite the prevalence of sexual assault in the United States, a number of misconceptions surround this crime and its victims. Some of the most common myths include:

1. Rape is a crime of passion.

The notion that the rapist is controlled by overwhelming lust is far removed from the reality. Psychologists have found that the motivation behind sexual assault is most often the need to dominate and control, rather than the inability to control sexual urges. Rape is primarily an act of power and aggression....


www.ojp.usdoj.gov...

There is nothing sexual about rape. It is about power. Period. And for the record, men are responsible for their behavior-- not women.




So men are entirely responsible for their behaviour right?

I hate to be so crass, bass and lude, but what about these young girls that go out to clubs and bars every weekend dressed in nothing but a bra and knickers (or what looks like said brasserie)? Do you think that 'putting it all on display' says to a mans psyche "behave"? Do you really think that having everything available like that encourages men to act more appropriately?

I completely agree that rape is a crime of violence, and that it is fuelled by a need to dominate and instill fear, but get real!

Women sometimes, and often encourage men to commit these dreadful acts by the way they dress, the language they use and even the body language... ever heard the expression "cock tease"???

Just for clarity, any man that commits rape should expect to be sent to a penal colony. Although it is a shame that in our enlightened society we have done away with such things, and now keep these scumbags in prison for a couple of years only before releasing them back into society... how very intelligent!!!


reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 03:38 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by liquidsmoke206



Apparently you could use a few more face to face encounters with our military. You brazenly stereotype them all in a very childish attempt to degrade them. It seems someone got their butt kicked at some point.

Further, your quotes on the cause of rape clearly state "experts believe" and similar, that sounds like opinion to me an nothing based upon fact. Women in Iraq are not being raped by men who want to dominate them, they are being raped by men who want sex.


reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 03:41 PM by dampnickers
reply to post by calihan123


Whilst I agree that you have a 'smoking hot avatar', you have to remember that there are teenage boys on here, and their parents will not be entirely enthused at the idea of sticky keyboards in the morning...

Your photographer certainly takes some good shots though!

Back to topic,

I am still stunned at the lack of understanding some of these posts are showing...


reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 03:45 PM by jakyll
reply to post by dampnickers



I hate to be so crass, bass and lude, but what about these young girls that go out to clubs and bars every weekend dressed in nothing but a bra and knickers (or what looks like said brasserie)? Do you think that 'putting it all on display' says to a mans psyche "behave"? Do you really think that having everything available like that encourages men to act more appropriately?




I hate this excuse,and thats all it is.
There are places in the world where,in the summer months,women walk around in bikini's every single day,are they guilty of teasing men??

And what about countries where women are covered head to toe,they still get raped.Women in the western world of the 18th century (and before) were raped,even though they had nothing on display.

If a man sees a woman as a tease and decides to do something about it,he isn't horny.He wants what he can't have,so he takes by force.He dominates the woman,puts her in her place,teaches her a lesson etc etc.

Such an attitude makes it very difficult for women in court because all a man has to say is,'well,she was a cock tease so i thought it only right that a drag her in a dark alley and brutally rape and sodomize her.'



reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 04:03 PM by jakyll
reply to post by calihan123



My attitude is SO not disgusting. I am a woman. I know FIRST HAND what some men are capable of, and how they can act. Im pretty positive you have never experienced a man trying to rape you. Correct?


Incorrect.

I too know what men are capable of.And you're right,your attitude isn't disgusting;its ignorant and disgusting.


reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 04:59 PM by mf_luder
reply to post by SuperViking


It's noteworthy because we're all the "big bad soldiers that are going to hurt the wittle americans when we get back from hurting the wittle Iwaqis.... boo hoo hoo."

These people need to grow the hell up.

You take the trash off the street and put it into our Army and OF COURSE we're going to have rapes.

"Liquid" is a fool. I don't know who he met or really care to discusss the issue, but to ANYONE on here who thinks we're all pyschotic or there's something "mentally" wrong with us is blind. What's even more disgusting is the number of stars that his drivel received.

I can look some articles up online too and make an outstanding claim about massive cover-ups and lies, but you know what - none of you people are "in the military", so don't go blathering about how bad we all are.

You should be so lucky the few of us who volunteered to do this solely because ... oh - I don't know? I like my country???? Did.

And before I get this title again . . . "I'M NOT A RAPE APOLOGIST. RAPE IS A CRIME - IT IS BAD - WE ALL DO NOT DO IT..." - Barney terms for you, so there's no confusion.

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