Read in case of National Emergency!!!!!!!

“We the people of the United States’. These are the first 7 words of the
Constitution of the United States of America. As I stood in the reception
area of the Pentagon in Washington D.C. early this year, a large recreation
of that Constitution was posted on the wall. It’s the first thing you see as you
enter the building. “We the People of the United States”, I stared at it and
said: “I’d die for that idea”!

Mod's edit -- source of the quote is here: hwww.waspnation.com...

Please review the ATS guide on quoting: www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 2-11-2008 by Byrd]

Great post!!

Thoughtful, well informed and well spoken.

It does seem that we (America), are headed down a slippery slope and IMHO, if Obama is elected Tuesday, there will be no stopping the train wreck.

I voted last week and it sickened me to push the button for McCain/Palin, but my values wouldn't allow me to vote democrat. Obama and crew are dangerous for Amercia.

Thanks for posting.

That post is not well informed, as I had posted awhile back the whole guns and religion comment has to be listened to in the entirety, not the snippet, he was talking about some Midwestern towns, that in the aftermath of the great depression never saw their economies or jobs that were their core return since and because of that all they have to cling to was their guns and religion, they remain bitter and cynical towards government, that is a whole lot different than if he was applying this generally to all of small town of America which is what the republicans and those that are unable to process information using their own brains have turned what he said into.

This post to me is propaganda shrouded in the constitution, please I ask you to review the shredding of the constitution undertaken by the Republican administration over the last 8 years and the reduction in credibility of the United States that is almost irreparable at this point which really is the national security issue of this century because we really do not know who our enemies are now and that has placed each and every one of us at risk if we do not change course foreign policy wise and as a nation.

Please look at Teddy Roosevelt, he is McCain's hero, he was considered to be by his ideologies and beliefs much closer to thinking as a socialist than Obama would even dream.

Please I ask you when you walked into the Pentagon did it ever occur to you that 2 trillion dollars dissapeared out of the budget of the Pentagon immediately preceding 911 and was never accounted for? that was yours and my money also, again this was done under the auspices of the Republican administration that have brought the United States to the brink of total collapse, please before making these assumptions and arriving at your beliefs in a monolithic sense review the real facts because your view is severely slanted in the direction of your bias.








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I will vote my heart on the 4th. My candidate may not win, but I have a feeling we will start to go back in time, and a good as place as any will be to go back to Nov 21 1963.

Call me crazy, insane, or what ever you like. They may steal the election again, but they will never steal my dream for this country. I remember who the founding fathers were, and still are. The spirit is still alive and well.

OP, Ill stand with you, just name the time and place

Star and flagged!

NASTY LAWLESS...I read your post..
I don't know anyone here at ATS that has, or could have said it any better..
Thank-you so much for your time and the effort that it took for this post. I commend you for it..
You have double Kuddos

[edit on 2-11-2008 by MissysWorld]

Being Canadian, I can vote for neither McCain, or Obama, and frankly, both of them seem frightening prospects in different ways. I don't know who I'd prefer. Regardless, I wanted to say that you offered us a wonderfully written post. Thank you.

I see both sides are going to take us down the same path.

They both have the same agenda it doesn't matter which one you choose.

I took psychology in college and I see they are both using the same stradegy to divide us more than any other time in history.We need to unite as a country and vote the people out of office under no confidence laws and take back our country as a whole.

We citizens should have a group of people that watch the people in the government and report to the public all the wrong doings going on behind closed doors (government should not have closed doors to the public)

Some may argue that this is a bad idea,but We should have a cashless society and everyone is informed when one person gets a large sum of money(bribe) put into thier account.This will stop the illegal activite in the system.

Big Brother can watch us ,Why can't we watch Big Brother

What if anything does your heading have to do with your post?
Before I call it misleading I’d like to ask first, what was your intention of such a heading?

PS - And how did you get so much space - that's a huge post!

Sooo Many Voters are saying "What choice do I have ? I Don't Trust either of the Candidates running.
I'm going to vote for the"Lesser of the two evils"

I guarantee you....
If You Vote for the "Lesser of the two evils", You Will Get Exactly what You ask for !!

Nobody with One Iota of Intelligence or Moral Scruples should position their Nations Future into the soiled hands of people they dont trust !!!

"Like sheep to the slaughter"

The US Constitution is slowly being destroyed by all " so-called" sides. The elitist scum control everything. these candidates are puppets of the scum. And for anyone to just keep harping about republican vs democrat lib vs conservative- they just don't get it!

These aren't his words unless he is Blackie Lawless of W.A.S.P. which I doubt.

www.waspnation.com...

Bravo!!

Very well written, Obama scares me very much, yet he has many people
swept up into the sensationalism who are blindly following. An Obama
rally is more like a high school pep rally, full of happy win team win
phrases surrounding smooth talk (yes I saw Obama speak)
All these things are great to whip a crowd into a frenzy but afterward
I felt like I was in the audience at american idol..

unfortunatly a large number of poor blacks will vote for Obama for
no other reason than because he's black. I call it the "real" racist vote.
Its is unfortunate that these voters have no idea what Obamas real
views and values are and more unfortunate that they don't care.

I was going to vote today but encountered a 3 hour waiting line
so I will have to wait till tuesday.

great post..

When I read this post I thought I had accidently logged into GLP, somehow.

Wow! Just wow.

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The name implies that he may actually be Blackie Lawless.

If he's not,
The OP never claims it to be his own, Although if it's not
it should have been noted and linked to.

I still thought it was a great post no matter who wrote it.

yes indeed!!

what a great thread - easily deserving of a flag and star!! i'd star it twice if i could!

also, never forget George Mason! here's just what The Gods of Eden, by William Bramley, says about our forefathers...

If we were to name a few of the most important humanitarians among the Founding Fathers, we might list such well-known figures as Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Patrick Henry, and Richard Henry Lee. One of the most important of the Founding Fathers is rarely mentioned, however. He is the one in whose memory no large monuments have ever been erected in Washington, D.C. His portrait does not grace any U.S. currency and he did not even have a postage stamp issued in his honor until 1981. That man was George Mason.

George Mason was described by Thomas Jefferson as “one of our really great men, and of the first order of greatness.” Mason is the most neglected of the Founding Fathers because he ignored political glory, shunned office, and was never famous for his oratory; yet he stands as one of the most farsighted of the men who created the American nation. After the Revolution, George Mason opposed the plans of Hamilton and declared that Hamilton had “done us more injury than Great Britain and all her fleets and armies.”

It was George Mason who pushed hardest for the adoption of a federal Bill of Rights. The ten Amendments to the U.S. Constitution which constitute the Bill of Rights are based upon Mason’s earlier Virginia Declaration of Rights written by him in 1776. The Bill of Rights almost did not make it into the American Constitution, and it would not have done so had not Mason engaged in a heated battle to ensure its inclusion. Despite his chronic ill health, Mason published influential pamphlets denouncing the proposed Constitution because it lacked specified individual rights. Most drafters of the Constitution, including Alexander Hamilton, declared a Bill of Rights unnecessary due to the balance and limitation of powers imposed on the federal government by the Constitution.

Mason persisted and was supported by Richard Henry Lee and Thomas Jefferson. With the backing of James Madison, the Bill of Rights was finally pushed through to ratification in the final hours. When we consider how the federal government has grown since then and how crucial the Bill of Rights have become, we can appreciate what a man of vision George Mason truly was. His far-sightedness and humanitarianism were also manifested in his attempts to completely abolish slavery. At a time when even his friends George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were slave owners, George Mason denounced the slave trade as a “disgrace to mankind” and worked to have it outlawed throughout all of the states.

George Mason did not succeed in this quest during his lifetime, but his dream did come true less than a century later when slavery was abolished in the United States by the thirteenth amendment to the Constitution.

Although most American schoolchildren do not hear much about George Mason in their history lessons or have his portrait hanging in their classrooms, he was one of the great heroes of human freedom.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...



amazing!

sorry for the lengthy quote, but i thought it was all equally worthy of a post!

peace! ...and always remember that it's ALL about Service-to-Others!!

[edit on 2-11-2008 by adrenochrome]

Nailed! Way to go Hank.

Here's something that might be appropriate to this as a response...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Keep in mind that, maybe? I posted but I felt I needed to put something on here that made sense - at least in the "formerly in the business of" club.

*mod Edit: Ahh no.

[edit on 2-11-2008 by alien]

Star and a flag for you, OP.

"Change"

Didn't Hitler want "Change"....?

The US will not be changed to conform to Socialism or Facism. It won't be allowed.

Originally posted by randyjoy2000
Great post!!

Thoughtful, well informed and well spoken.

It does seem that we (America), are headed down a slippery slope and IMHO, if Obama is elected Tuesday, there will be no stopping the train wreck.

I voted last week and it sickened me to push the button for McCain/Palin, but my values wouldn't allow me to vote democrat. Obama and crew are dangerous for Amercia.

Thanks for posting.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

... There are other choices you know....

Why the hell are you people picking a lesser evil?
You just voted for someone you didnt want to be in office...
Who cares if they get elected or not, vote for the person you think would be best...

You really think McCain is better than Obama?
They YOU have fallen for the trick.
THEY ARE THE SAME!
Jesus, look into the Bilderberg group.

DONT VOTE FOR SOMEONE SO THE OTHER PERSON DOESNT WIN! VOTE FOR WHO YOU THINK WOULD BE THE BEST!

and If they are not on the ticket... write them in!
I did... Ron Paul!

Brief Overview of Congressman Paul's Record

* He has never voted to raise taxes.
* He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
* He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
* He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
* He has never taken a government-paid junket.
* He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
* He voted against the Patriot Act.
* He voted against regulating the Internet.
* He voted against the Iraq war.

* He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.

* He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.

Learn more about Ron: www.ronpaul2008.com...

yes... I can say I voted for the right candidate... can you?

[edit on 2-11-2008 by Odessy]

Originally posted by HankMcCoy
These aren't his words unless he is Blackie Lawless of W.A.S.P. which I doubt.

www.waspnation.com...

Well noticed, I agree and smell a hint of plaegerism. There is a vast diffirence in wrinting such a well defined thought provoking post and just "cutting and pasting" it.

Respects

reply to post by Odessy


Bravo!

Finally someone else with the balls to stand up and speak what they think... and to actually have intelligent words that make up real sentences too! (I do not mean to be fecetious, I mean this)

I have been pointing out the other choices now for some time, but few seem to get the point.

Shame really, the sheeple never really learn.