but what I am not open to, is the theory that he is some man behind some clouds and if you don't listen to him you are going directly to hell.
I dont know where you got the whole notion of some man behind some clouds. I agree that is a rather childish and fundamental approach to a Mystical
transcendent being of Jesus. I know myself, being a Christian Mystic, my view of him is a complete 360 from what your describing here.
As far as not listening to Jesus ....hey thats on you. I do not judge and do not condemn anybody. But not listening to the AWSOME spiritual advice of
a Spiritual master is somewhat of an ego defense mechanism ...whereas practicing what Jesus taught leads to ego death and enlightenment.
That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard, that if you don't absolutely follow the so-called "teachings" of Jesus you will go to hell, that
Ok I understand where you come from. But you see, this whole shroom theory is one of the most absolutely absurd theories I've heard about Jesus in a
The hell thing.... I had a problem with that myself for a while. Until I underwent ego death and become Spiritually Enlightenment (a God given gift)
to see that its not such a far off thing to say.
For example, lets say that in the afterlife, like attracts like and you go automatically to a place that best suits your spiritual development gained
on earth. Well a killer/rapist its obvious what they would tune into, someone in the middle would go into some form of middleground, where as an
enlightened being who absolutely Loves God with their whole being will also attune to the closest possible realm where God is.
You can find this in NDE books, most of them never talk about hell being real, they talk about reincarnation, and the ones that do talk about hell
(very very few) are the ones that are saying that people are trapped in a cycle of incarnating until they get Enlightened/Ego death ....and that what
Jesus is preaching gives you that in the fastest possible way.
I'm not saying its the only way, but I am saying that the Enlightenment I have from being a Christian Mystic makes Shrooming absolutely boring to me,
no longer effects me, and I have all together dropped them because Im on a daily spiritual high.
If anyone wants to negate the fact that there are alternate ways of perceiving reality, than that's on them.
Of course we have plants and herbs that we use for further good, or bad. Shrooms at first helped me to realize that God is real that something is out
there, which led me to being a Christian Mystic, meditation, prayer, and eventual Enlightenment where I experience God daily w/o shrooms. They were a
tool used to show me that I can have a deeper personal relationship with God, w/o having to rely on a plant.
Plants can also be used for evil. While on Shrooms you can summons demons and be infected with all types of beings that will influence the rest of
your life. Don't believe me??? Try shrooming deep in the woods with some friends with the notion that you want to "make contact" and you will
eventually all be seeing and communicating with the same beings of the Outer Darkness, as they're called by traditions all over the world.
ALso coc aine, heroin, and other drugs come from plants and look at all the messed up addicts, overdoses, manipulation on socieities in the
world. Plants are a double edge sword.
Anyone who wants to spend their life believing in another institution such as religion that makes you pay for your so called enlightenment
The institution I "know" is real (believing is for beginners) is not of this world, but of the Spiritual realms. My Enlightenment as a Christian
Mystic never came from being in a Church nor did I ever have to pay for it. It was a free gift from above after months and months of genuine seeking,
reading, asking, praying, meditating, and getting rebaptized.
You say you hold the notion to perceive reality and things at a different light, but look at how your perceiving me and Christianity in general. Seems
very closed minded and "hating the fundamentalists" based. Consider that Christianity has been abducted by main-streamism and turned into an
Unsolace offensive beast .....when in reality if you seek and read inbetween the lines you will eventually receive yourself Enlightenment that's
beyond taking 1,000 pounds of Shrooms and its directly God given with all sorts of personal revelations and other info from above.
but for me, I know the teachings of Jesus, and when he told me that I can do everything that he did and greater
Yes this is soooooooo true, but its taken out of context. This is only possible when God has activated in you the Enlightenment that comes from being
indwelled with the Holy Spirit, the same Spirit that Jesus had that allowed him to perform miracles is in me and can be in you if you seek it.
These things are impossible to do without this Spirit, and it even says that when talking about the Spirit and the things of Jesus ....to those who
dont have the Spirit these words seem as foolishness to them.
I am merely sharing my outlook on it. Some people with relate with my views, yet others won't. Both of which I am comfortable with accepting. Life's
definition is really unto the beholder.
Perceptions and truths are most true and best perceived when you have God given Enlightenment, then the veil (like in Shrooming is removed) but this
time for good, not some 12 hour trip. You will see the beings behind the curtain, angels/demons, their influence, spirits of the dead, be able to turn
this off and on at will.
To say that life's definition is unto to the beholder is to say that a Baby killer's definition holds just as much weight/credit as an extremist
suicide bomber, as a priest, as a philosopher. That statement is flawed because it throws morals and values complete out the window.
Whereas being Enlightened and experiencing the Most High, you will instantly see how high the standards of values and morality are. Even mere swear
words have such extreme negative power on yourself and others when you say them, but unto the beholder thats not true, especially a beholder who has
yet to experience God.
Forget shrooms man ...there's something better, higher, more complete. Thats God and Jesus points the way to a rapid onset of Enlightenment. It has
to be experienced to be really known