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reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 01:48 AM by wheresthetruth
reply to post by GrOuNd_ZeRo


I have to agree with you on this. I think the 2012 prophecies are a catalyst to encourage people to open their minds. Since I have been telling my friends about the coming enlightenment of 2012. I have made it a point to dispell fears of global catastrophy, rather to point to the heightening of the global consciousness. I have seen in the short term, several of my friends starting to make personal "discoveries" and question the world around them rather than just dismiss information and follow blindly. More and more, people seem to be engaging me in political, socialogical, religious and prophetic conversations. More people, as they hear me talking to others, join in and give comment and opinion, listen to my opinion and we debate. I have learned from others as I have taught others. I tend to speak matter-of-factly and this lends to people trying to validate or debunk my facts, as well as to find out more information for themselves.
If the 2012 prophecy does nothing else, I would like to see more people take the time to learn for themselves and begin to experience their world with open eyes and open minds. This could lend to a self-fullfilling prophecy or enlightenment, developing over the next 4 years and nothing more need happen on 12-21-12. It will pass as any other day and people will have already transformed themselves into more intelligent, enlighten individuals.

That is what the 2012 prophecy means to me. It is my view of the theory and in the spirit I have chosen to address it and spread it, it cannot be debunked.



reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 02:16 AM by greenjuice
you are right 2012 is wrong but you fail to realize that 2012 is 2008
proof
show me a better alignment than this one

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it form a christan cross.here check it for yourself
space.jpl.nasa.gov...

input the time as dec 23 2007,with field view of 5 degress.check dec 2012 and there is no alignment

[web.archive.org...://www.incapabledesetaire.com/edito/secretwash.htm]
archive.dailypicture.net...

youtube

coupled with this thread its safe to say 2012 is 2008
www.abovetopsecret.com...




[edit on 2-11-2008 by greenjuice]


reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 02:53 AM by Jb0311NY
reply to post by Amenti


Great Refrence's and story telling.
Strange you don't reference the bible code, so saying it's totally debunked when you really draw the same conclusion as the rest of the flock it also seem's strange.
The Bible code book's written by Micheal Drosin (i belive it's his name) offer of insight to this happeneing in our culture.
I personally belive the Torah is some type of coded book but I truly don't belive that God has ever interfered with this galactic pinball game called our universe. What is the point of making a wonderfully random universe if your going to just finger f^ck it at every crossroad and toy with it.

The Bible code reported a 2012 meteor and the phrase" I will crush it." all within the ELS, i belive the Torah and it's wisdom was passed by EBE's and they are the one's looking after us. Perhaps they own us and are looking after their investment, or looking to hit the reset switch on this game of life.
30,000 died of starvation yesterday and we think that this plastic and material world is what fufill's us. The actor's and athlete's and their fancy crap.
Rise above the hate and ignorance and lead by example. Here's a couple site's to check out for thoose of you who careBible Code
Starvation


reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 03:29 AM by LibertyOrDeath008
reply to post by wheresthetruth


Great post wheresthetruth, I really can't elaborate much on that because you hit the nail right on the head. This is not some doomsday prophecy or something that you will be able to measure and quantify.


reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 05:01 AM by fleabit
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
2012 is hardly debunked, those were just a HANDFULL of theories of what will happen.

but IMHO nothing significant will happen on a cosmic scale, I forsee some cosmic awareness coming to people but this is more due to the anticipation of 2012.

I also think a world-war might be set off because the self-fulfilling prophecy that may very well be 2012.


I honestly don't get why people feel this way (not just about this topic, but about many conspiracy topics). There can hardly be an awareness or a self-fulfilling prophecy when the actual # of people for whom 2012 has any relevance at all is actually quite tiny. Even in countries where there is more access to media an the Internet, the number of people who are aware there is even any predictions at all is probably less than 1% of the population.

At very best, around December 10th, some media sources *might* make a fun comment about the predictions just before the end of the news hour, or it perhaps will be in Section D in your local newspaper next to the funnies. Honestly, most won't have a clue this date means a thing.

Every time I hear something talked about on these boards, and how the globe will be waiting with bated breath, I just shake my head confused. There is a reason people use the (imo derogatory) term "sheeples" on conspiracy sites. To point out the supposedly huge # of completely unaware people on the planet. Of course, they don't consider that many people have different goals, cares, worries, and desire to know about worldwide events and government politics. But the point remains: a tiny % of people actually have even heard that this date means a thing. If you work at a regular place with say, 100 employees, ask around.. see if 2012 has any significance. I have a feeling about 1 in the 100 might have a clue. There can be no awareness if no one is aware.
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