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reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 09:55 PM by Buck Division
reply to post by die_another_day


I guess that is the so-called Bradley effect in action.

I voted two days ago. I briefly considered McCain -- what if? I truly respect McCain.

But then I remembered that I could make a historic decision for utter change, the likes of which have not been seen during my entire life.

My heart beat faster.

And I voted for Obama. No regrets, yet.


reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 09:58 PM by chapter29
reply to post by Buck Division





I guess that is the so-called Bradley effect in action.


Bradley effect..? I say it was more a Freudian slip...





reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 10:28 PM by Res Ipsa



reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 11:05 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by poet1b



I just have to disagree. She has not proven herself fiscally. In fact, she has shown wasteful spending just like every other politician. Everyone brags about her executive experience, but fail to mention she's only been governor for 4(?) years (or is it 2?).

Worse than that, I don't believe any enemies will "tread lightly". The phrase is "walk softly and carry a big stick", not "threaten everyone and act like a madman". Personally, I think there are far too many with their fingers on the button already and I am not interested in putting another in power.

She seems like a loose cannon to me, that's all. She seems to have the same attitude towards critics, the media, the other party, and the same world opinion as the current administration.

I think she has also been exceedingly over the line with her attacks on Obama.

[edit on 31-10-2008 by Sublime620]


reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 11:17 PM by Witness2008
reply to post by die_another_day



You can vote? I guess I made a bad assumption as to your standing here in the U.S (citizenship or the like)

I used to like McCain in his earlier days as a congressman but his connections with Pinochet, Oliver North and Libby changed my mind. I am surprised that not everyone could see the stark differences between McCain and Obama from the start and be absolute when it came time to vote.

Glad to see you again Die_another_day


reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 11:23 PM by poet1b
reply to post by Sublime620



So then you do think she is just as qualified as all the other politicians. Her record as governor is too short, but she has indeed demonstrated that she can be fiscally conservative. That is what she has done.

As far as attacks go, that is currently her job as the Veep candidate. In addition, Obama's attempts to make anyone who attacks Obama guilty of some kind of crime is despicable. More importantly, Obama's supporters have gone after Palin with a vengence, as has Obama. This holier than thou attitude by the Obama camp disgusts me more than anything.

I repeat.

No one should have to feel guilty for not supporting Obama.

No matter how hard Obama tries to portray anyone who criticizes him look like the bad guy, this is their right. If Obama can't take criticism, then he is in the wrong occupation. I am tired of this technique.



reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 11:48 PM by skeptic1
reply to post by die_another_day



I think this is going to happen to a lot of people when they actually go into the voting booth.

Call it a slip, a loss of logic, or a realization of logic....but I think this will happen a lot and make this race very close.


reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 11:56 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by poet1b



1) There is a difference in attacks by Obama and attacks by Obama advocates.

2) Please show me something comparable from Palin continuously trying to equate Obama to terrorism from Obama. What attack has he done on her that is even close to that?

3) She got a few hundred million dollars to build the famed "bridge to no where" (which she supported). The funded was cut, and she abandoned the idea. However, she did not return the money. How is that fiscally conservative?

There is also this: McCain criticized Wasilla earmarks in 2001

What about her excessive wardrobe? What's conservative about that?

Palin Billed State for Nights Spent at Home

This is conservative?

ANCHORAGE, Sept. 8 -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a "per diem" allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business.


I don't think that's defensible. I happen to be an advocate of fiscal conservatism, and Washington is just not built for it right now. They all take advantage of the system.

4) When has Obama himself tried to call any attacks a "crime"? I think he was fair in calling people out on the Ayers garbage, but I don't believe Obama has done much whining about anything.

Now, Palin on the other hand, has done plenty of complaining about the drive-by media and their "gotcha" questions.

So, please, explain your position better by citing examples. It is hard to argue with you when I don't know what you are referring to.

[edit on 31-10-2008 by Sublime620]


reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 11:59 PM by die_another_day
reply to post by Witness2008



Glad to see you too =D.

Yeh I can vote, immigrated and changed citizenship. Only way to get all the benefits here is by becoming a citizen, but you can never change your skin color and appearance. I will be living here for rest of my life and I'm still pretty young.


Also, I never liked McCain because of his similarities and connections with Bush. Obama was definitely my first choice because of principles, some logic, the media, and peer pressure. Maybe the latter 2 changed my mind.

And I don't know about Palin, what if McCain won and dies? That will become a disaster.
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