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Originally posted by TSOM87
Listen i don't know if there is life out in the Universe, there could be but then again there mite not be, i don't know.
The only way that i am going to accept if there is life out there, is to see it with my own eye's or in other words ''Proof''.
You aint going know untill you get the proof. You can come one here every day and talk, talk, talk, talk and talk, you aint going to get anywhere without proof.
How can people believe without tangible proof?
Its the same with Ghosts lol!
I want the truth with proof not continuous speculation!
There are three truths: my truth, your truth, and the truth.
~ Chinese proverb
Originally posted by cpdaman
Originally posted by TSOM87
Listen i don't know if there is life out in the Universe, there could be but then again there mite not be, i don't know.
The only way that i am going to accept if there is life out there, is to see it with my own eye's or in other words ''Proof''.
You aint going know untill you get the proof. You can come one here every day and talk, talk, talk, talk and talk, you aint going to get anywhere without proof.
How can people believe without tangible proof?
Its the same with Ghosts lol!
I want the truth with proof not continuous speculation!
i see your line of thinking but when you look at things closer
you can have LESS DOUBT about some things no? it may come down to semantics, but you (in your mind) could says i'm not sure but i have a pretty (high/low) level of cofidence in this because..........
I mean research will show you there are hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of people in the world who are convinced they have seen ghosts? are they all liar's? logic would tell you NO so would it make sense to doubt ghosts less? yes even though you may have never seen one? yes
if you answer no then you should probably explore any fear you may have of believing in ghosts because FEAR will stop you in your tracks from questioning any beleifs you have in a fair and rationale way. at least that is the way i see it.
but as SKY FLOATING has said, the endless "show me proof" garbage keeps the discussion at "BASE 1" and for some of the poster's that is the POINT!
[edit on 1-11-2008 by cpdaman]
Originally posted by Oceanborn
In situations like this is where i personally i'm irritated because instead of what you said right there,there are other people who talk about things that haven't being proven as facts.It tends to make me think that the person who says that maybe wants to just misslead others.
Originally posted by TruthTellist
TSOM87,
Then why are you looking for tangible "proof" on the internet?
All you will ever find is pictures and words on a screen.
The limitations of internet research (that should be obvious) often lead to 'skeptics' demanding impossible proofs - proofs that cannot be properly conveyed through the computer monitor, but nothing tangible.
*Most 'skeptics' conveniently ignore these obvious limitations, and will continue to demand 'proof's that could not possibly be conveyed via the internet and PC screen. This is incredibly frustrating.
[edit on 1-11-2008 by TruthTellist]
Originally posted by Cythraul
It's called 'conditioning' and if there's one thing the world does well, it is to condition the masses to form the same rigid perspective on existence, authority, science and spirituality. I'd rather open my mind a little too far than close it to all possibility. In my opinion, there's no shame in being debunked.
[edit on 1/11/2008 by Cythraul]
Originally posted by wylekat
I am the same way with a couple things- finding a woman who actually likes me and wont scorch me is one. I have been hurt so many times, she has got to PROVE her love. I now need proof, because of all the fakes, lies and other crap i have had forced down my throat and forced to digest. And lemme tell you- when the truth comes out, and you find you just digested crap, it tastes real bitter coming back up.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
More than a hundred years ago the Wright Brothers speculated about flying. The savage skeptics spit on them for "lying", saying "there is no truth/proof".
There is such a thing as middle ground. Grey areas, and balance, you know. Certain posters never show their "balance".
Originally posted by Donoso
Lets throw out all forms of critical thinking, self scrutiny, evidence, logic, or what have you. Those damn dirty skeptics keep us down! Down with the logical thinkers! Down with the people that keep our wild ideas in check! Down with the people that differentiate reality from fiction! What kind of society do we live in today!? Whatever happened to the good ol' days when we could point at our sacred texts and declare itself to be all the proof you need.
I can't even believe you'd post this dribble on a forum who's motto once was "DENY IGNORANCE" not "BELIEVE EVERYTHING BLINDLY".
Originally posted by Lightworth
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The real issue isn't that there's no proof (of the nonhuman presence), it's in too many people's unwillingness to begin the proof PROCESS.
Originally posted by I_AM_that_I_AM
reply to post by Skyfloating
So, you just called anyone who want proof of things morons?
SO we dont' need evidenceot prove things anymore
GOod, I' sure that will makes cops job's much easier.
It's a good example because they weren't spit on after evidence of flight, they were revered. There are more discoveries yet to be made. We aren't done yet.
Originally posted by Donoso
Originally posted by Skyfloating
More than a hundred years ago the Wright Brothers speculated about flying. The savage skeptics spit on them for "lying", saying "there is no truth/proof".
Terrible example, seeing as how the Wright Brothers PROVED their hypothesis by demonstrating flight.
(Double Post, sue me)
Originally posted by Donoso
Lets throw out all forms of critical thinking, self scrutiny, evidence, logic, or what have you. Those damn dirty skeptics keep us down! Down with the logical thinkers! Down with the people that keep our wild ideas in check! Down with the people that differentiate reality from fiction! What kind of society do we live in today!? Whatever happened to the good ol' days when we could point at our sacred texts and declare itself to be all the proof you need.
I can't even believe you'd post this dribble on a forum who's motto once was "DENY IGNORANCE" not "BELIEVE EVERYTHING BLINDLY".
Originally posted by Donoso
Originally posted by Skyfloating
More than a hundred years ago the Wright Brothers speculated about flying. The savage skeptics spit on them for "lying", saying "there is no truth/proof".
Terrible example, seeing as how the Wright Brothers PROVED their hypothesis by demonstrating flight.
(Double Post, sue me)