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Guess what happened to me at my local DMV office?-(Hint: A passport isn't a valid ID!!!)

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posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:05 PM
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posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:09 PM
Yeah I feel you. I sometimes run into that problem with a friend of mine. his ID is is current US NAVY issued military ID. Not good enough for some bar tenders I guess. we have to leave and go to a more friendly bar down the street when that happens. same used to happen to another military friend of mine with his military ID back when I was living in Boston.

Since when have current US Govt. Issued US Navy Military ID's not considered a valid form of ID. it's got his picture on it. it authentic. go figure.

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:10 PM

Originally posted by wrangell76
She actually took out pen and paper and wrote down where he could go online and what places he could could get help from to get help. And I go up with valid ID's and she doesn't even bother to check if the passport can work?...please...enough said...

Again, BOO HOO. Are you really suggesting that this kid is getting better treatment than you? Seriously? Ever been arrested and had your liscence revoked and then had to jump through the hoops to get it back? His little friendly visit at the DMV was one step on a long flight of difficult stairs. It is his own fault, he screwed up and is paying a price. Because that price was not evident in this one moment between your turn at bat and his, now life is unfair to you?

Please, tell us all your grand theory then.

Why do you suppose he got better treatment than you?

I am going with it is because they had is SSN on record already and just needed to hear it for were looking FOR A NEW LISCENCE. NEW. NEW. NEW!

Get the difference between a return trip and a first trip yet?

Please oh please won't you wonder us all with the real reason this evil woman would be so unfair?

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:12 PM

Originally posted by BASSPLYR
Yeah I feel you. I sometimes run into that problem with a friend of mine. h.......

Yeah, me too. Sometimes when I go places, things do not go the way that I wish they would either. It is so unfair. If only this were a socialist country, then people could not pick and choose and everything would be sooo much better.....right?

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:13 PM
reply to post by BASSPLYR

Wow really? We would have accepted his ID where I work.
I still can't believe it either that the passport was not acceptable. I guess I am just "STUPID" as a certain individual above just stated about me. LOL

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:18 PM
I'm gonna get punched in the mouth for this- and called all sorts of nasty names- but I read your story carefully..... like the part almost everyone is ignoring; SHE DIDN'T ASK THE GUY AHEAD OF YOU FOR HIS SS CARD.kinda sticks out...

What nationality/ race was the DMV worker?
What nationality/ race was the low pants guy in front of you?
What nationality/ race are you?

Now- before someone starts pointing and screaming "Racist (insert your fave expletive here)"- I want to point out WHO exactly might be racist. As someone who has had the great misfortune to have been trapped in south Texas- I was treated worse than a Jew in Nazi Germany (And I am NOT kidding). I am amazed I got out of there alive- let alone in one piece. I was discriminated against, insulted, assaulted, robbed, arrested (for no reason- AND the cop had been drinking, i could smell it on his breath), denied any and all services, assaulted some more- and almost got raped by some homeless lunatic.

I swore- and I will say it on here- if I ever, ever, EVER, EVER have go back to South Texas, it'll be with a nuke strapped to my back and with a detonator in my hand. I went from being the racially tolerant person you could have ever met to someone who could beat the living snot out of the first Mexican who said a cross word to me. And not just them- the white people there were just as bad, if not WORSE. I had one threaten my life because he thought I was going to rob him blind, I had one walk up and just plain insult me and tell me to go to hell just because I was walking by....

Just a thought- why in the WORLD do you want to move to that hellhole, anyway?!

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:21 PM
reply to post by wrangell76

Well, seeing as how this many posts later you still have trouble understanding why one person would need to show that card and another would not. Even when the evidence why is in you OP, you still carry on pages later about how unfair it is. Two different sets of circumstances. You keep pretending that I did not even make this point, let alone that you get it, nor even care whether or not you are truly right. To me, that is pretty stupid. Either shoot my point down and show me how intelligent you are, or keep dodging a logical explanation and crying about how unfair life is.

You do not get why and it is obvious.

You have no theory as to why this would happen to you.

You refuse to acknowledge any decent points leveled at your feet.

That seems pretty stupid.

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:22 PM
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posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:26 PM
reply to post by wylekat

I will say I won't live here for the rest of my life.
I love Alaska too much Texas is not favorite place, but alas the work here is good and my hubby is doing the Army thing here as well. I am really sorry to hear about your treatment here. That is really terrible. I have many different friends from many different races, and they all have their stories, but for the most part they are treated very well. In fact I work with 6 individuals from 6 different countries and they are all very happy. I will not bring up race as an issue in this thread, because that was never the issue. The issue was that my passport was not accepted as a valid id. Hope that helps

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:27 PM
reply to post by wrangell76

Just look at it this way, when you get your liscence revoked and are ready to get it back, you will not have to show your card then either. If anyone asks you do you have a case then.

Still waiting to hear the master theory as to why this all went down the way it did.

Tell you what, tell us why you think she did it. Maybe you have a really good reason that I am obnoxiously overlooking. I will go down there raise all kinds of hell in your honor for. I would enjoy it if you were truly wronged.

So...why do you think she did this to you?

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:31 PM

Originally posted by wrangell76

Originally posted by Layla

You should have looked it up before heading down to DMV and the whol problem would have been avoided

Ahhh...the critic...obviously you must have some serious time on your hands, because I for one really don't. ......So, forgive me if I forgot to schedule, "looking up the drivers license laws of Texas" into my calendar.

but I have hours to blow online arguning with a stranger named Lucifer.

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:34 PM

Originally posted by wrangell76
The issue was that my passport was not accepted as a valid id. Hope that helps

No it was not. Be honest. The title may be, but the entire post is about how the punk in front of you with his pants hanging down, who was dancing and texting, was not asked for the same info that you were.

Do not try and pretend this stuff is not written down and can be gone over. Maybe you need to reread your OP and see how it comes off. Perhaps you will understand why very little has actually been said about this passport and it is mostly about her asking for your SS card.

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 05:24 PM
reply to post by wrangell76

I had the same problem in Texas, actually, a bit over a year ago. I arrived with the forms required as stated on the paperwork, and they insisted that I furnish even more forms. When I calmly told they that they needed to read the paperwork they were filling out and see that I did, indeed, have the required ID, I was told to leave or I would be taken "downtown" for terrorizing people, by the cop there.

Honestly, I would chalk it up to stupidity. Most of the world is frighteningly stupid. As for the gentleman in front of you, well...idk about your part of Texas, but in mine, white people are by far treated as second class citizens, for the most part. Ironic how it is perfectly legal to discriminate against the majority. My favorite example are all the ads for employment that say they prefer minorities apply. Or the place here recently that would only hire you if you were on welfare. How dare you be white and not on welfare! You are the evil rich white man...oppressing us all!

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 06:14 PM
So what, my friend couldn't buy beer with his passport either but he isn't crying about it.

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 07:23 PM
Greeneyedleo posted the requirements to obtain a Texas driver's licence or id card on the 2nd page of this thread. Perhaps if some of you would read the whole thing, you would understand why the OP did not get a licence. If, like a Canadian passport, a US passport does not have your SSN printed somewhere in it then it had nothing to do with the use of a passport as identification. The second paragraph of the requirements is your clue.

All original applicants for a Texas driver license or identification certificate must present proof of identity satisfactory to the department. (All applicants for a driver license must also provide proof of their social security number). All documents must be verifiable by the source that issued the document.

A passport proves you have a SSN but it doesn't prove what the number actually is.

The OP had no proof of her SSN. It had nothing to do with age, race, or fashion sense.

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 08:21 PM

Originally posted by wrangell76
reply to post by Layla

I am not going to say "Thanks for the link, you're right, I should have done that first", if I don't agree with your post. And by the way sweetheart I have been around for years as well on this site. I know how it works around here. Thanks for the well wishes for my day. I will have an absolutely fantastic one

I'm so glad people like Lucifer were able to decipher our OP also and see that you were in the wrong. Now, the only thing left is for you to actually admit it. Really sweetie, you don't have to do it here, publicly, but you really should look in the mirror and say "Hey, you were wrong!". Your passport would VERY WELL HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED had you had the REQUIRED supporting documents, which you DID NOT. The employee did her due diligence, YOU DID NOT. How hard is that to understand? You are not entitled to bend the rules, especially if you didn't even spend the time to find out what the rules are!

Man, the mods really should change this to a "Hoax" topic, or tag it "Misinformation by OP" or something.

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 08:28 PM
While Luci is making a point, it really isn't necessary to be a jerk about it.
It blows me away why some need to nit-pik instead of moving on.
Not that I would ever deny you an opinion. welcome to our site.

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 08:32 PM
Ok, I'm Australian and here legally.
My husband is American, I live in TN.
Due to the lengthy green card process, I still don't actually qualify to have a social security number. You have to have a visa that allows you to work in the USA to qualify to even apply for one.

No problem, instead of a Drivers Licence, I was issued a Driving Permit after passing the test and driving exam.

I had to produce my passport, visa, birth certificate and proof of residency along with my marriage certificate.

I am absolutely legally allowed to drive and have insurance, the only difference is that it isn't valid to use for of ID purposes which is clearly labelled on the permit. Legally to buy beer I have to have alternative ID.

I have a bank account too and they could have cared less about the social security number.
Everybody always asks, but when I say I don't have one as long as I can prove who I am it has never mattered.

The Bank Manager said the only reason anyone asks for a social security number is so if you don't pay your debts they can report you to the credit agencies.
She said without one they can't do that.

So even when I get one I'm not going to share it unless I absolutely have to.
It must be common, nobody ever even blinks when I say I don't have one.

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 09:36 PM
reply to post by shadow watcher

You never know, maybe I am a jerk about it because I am not all the new here. Just this time around. Perhaps it is because I am sick of seeing a decent conspiracy site be turned into a soapbox for every angry American that somehow feels they were fleeced by another when they themselves are at fault and even admit it in their insipid little story about the grand conspiracy against them.

Or maybe it is because you should not expect someone with a name like Lucifer to make a good point and be real sweet about it.

posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 10:04 PM
reply to post by Wildbob77

Ask her if she would like to be in a movie by Michael Moore.

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