Before I begin I wanted to say that I have been an atheist for most of my life until recently (before this actual event I started believing in God). I dont do drugs, drink or even smoke. I am very healthy physically and mentally (i think!).


Not long ago I was relaxing and in preparation for an attempt at astral projection when something weird happened. I reached the light paralysis, passed the vibrations and heating steps and felt ready to exit.
I felt violently sucked out far away, deep into space I believe although I couldnt really recognize where I was. But an overwhelming feeling filled me entirely.

I felt a strong presence, something I instantly understood was above everything in the Universe. I also understood that this entity is not a separate entity from us and everything in the universe... The entity- God- is everywhere. It is the force, an intelligent or conscious force behind every atom and particle. It is everywhere basically, the whole universe is part of God and at the same time its Creation.
To put it more clearly I had a feeling that everything is part of a single organism, which can set its own "rules" and his aware of everything happening within it.

This feeling and experience cannot be described with worlds to be honest, but those who have done astral projections and channeling can understand.
I now believe in God.

I now understand the Trinity. Father is God and the force making everything what is. Son is the Creation, us and everythign around us. Holy spirit is the spirit living things have been gifted.
I understand how God said that he is the Alpha and the Omega. He is Everything! And we are part of God.
I believe Angels exists too and sent to purge bad elements, like antibodies sent to destroy infections and destructive threats to our organism.

I think the mainstream religion has it wrong when praying to our father in heavens, when is he right here within and around us!

Originally posted by TheOracle
But an overwhelming feeling filled me entirely. I felt a strong presence, something I instantly understood was above everything in the Universe.

I've never had any kind of an astral projection experience, but I know exactly what you're talking about. That is one part of Christianity I don't ever mention here on ATS. That's not a constant experience, but at times, yes. Exactly that although it may not be as intense as what you experienced.

Originally posted by TheOracle
I now understand the Trinity. Father is God and the force making everything what is. Son is the Creation, us and everythign around us. Holy spirit is the spirit living things have been gifted.

That's quite a gift to have been given this experience. To know something that can't be taught or learned in a school or from a book.

The most mind-blowing thing to me that is still hard to reckon with at times is that this all power force that has unmentionable knowledge and power singles you out specifically to interact with you. Not just people in general, but you alone. It's almost unsettling, but good at the same time.

I'd encourage you to (as silly as it sounds) interact with God often. Why else would you have been sought out?

I now understand the Trinity.

Oh? Then maybe you can explain it to the rest of us. How do you get from this:

God- is everywhere. It is the force, an intelligent or conscious force behind every atom and particle. It is everywhere basically, the whole universe is part of God and at the same time its Creation.

...to this:

Father is God and the force making everything what is. Son is the Creation, us and everythign around us. Holy spirit is the spirit living things have been gifted.

Why would you seek to "divide up" God into a "trinity?" If God is everything, what value is there is assigning earthly concepts like "father and son" to "All That Is" ? If God is everything, why describe God in exclusively male terms? Why "Father?" Why "Son?" Are these ideas any more useful ways of describing God than, for example, Aunt and Uncle? If you're trying to indicate "Creator" and "Creation," aren't gender and familial titles thoroughly misleading?

I think the mainstream religion has it wrong when praying to our father in heavens

I think you might be right.

I believe Angels exists too and sent to purge bad elements, like antibodies sent to destroy infections and destructive threats to our organism.

But if God is everything, then aren't the "bad" elements also God? Aren't disease and famine and pain and misery and agony and death all God too? Aren't demons and devils God too?

like antibodies sent to destroy infections and destructive threats to our organism.

Why are we so special? God is everything, not just us, right? So...the plants and animals that we eat are God, and parasites and diseases and sharks and things that eat us are also God, and we are God eating God and being eaten by God.

purge bad elements,

Bad for whom?

God?

My mom experienced something similar. She had surgery for kidney stones, and the night of her return back home she woke up to a bluish white light shining down on her. She described it as the most peaceful, incredible feeling she'd ever felt. She just couldnt describe it. But she knew in that instance everything she ever wanted to know about life, about her past, about everything.

I do not believe in religion in the sense of jesus being the son of god, or the existense of a hell or devil... but I do believe in a "god". I do believe that we all make up god. God is the simple definition of something we will never understand, but it exists. It is in all of us. In every animal, in every plant, in every star and every emotion we have. God in essence, is existence in itself. It is not a person, not a man nor a woman, but the sum of everything that exists. We will never understand it, but thats one of the great things about life. Thats why the world keeps turning, and people keep going on with their lives. We are always looking for an answer, and if we had it, there would be no point to living.

TheOracle:
I use the male term because that is the -probably incorrect-
biblical translation. I dont think God has a gender anyways.

And I agree. But if you don't think God has a gender, and if you think the Biblical translation is probably incorrect...why would you use it? If you look at the descriptions you gave:

Creator- father- force of nature- laws of physics (however you want to see it)
God is the Creator and it is Everywhere. And I believe it is a conscious entity.
Creation- son- us and everything around us- effects of the laws of physics (stars and the rest)

...I think we can agree that the the names "father" and "son" really don't have a very strong relation to the descriptions you've provided for them. It would be like me throwing a ball, and thinking of myself as the "father" of the ball being thrown. It's an awkward way of thinking about it, and if you're talking to anyone who doesn't already know what you're talking about, the "father and son" metaphor is likely to make them think about all sorts of others things that you probably don't intend at all.

Think of it this way...you've been hearing the "father, son and holy ghost" reference for most of your life. Without the benefit of the experience you had, if you were to continue to hear "father, son and holy ghost" for another thousand years, from the way that people try to explain it using these terms would you ever have come to the understanding you have now? I'm guessing probably not.

So maybe these aren't very useful labels?

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If you could decide when to put an end to a benign cancerigen
cell in your body, would you act swiftly?

Maybe. But if were a cancerous cell and I could decide to put an end to my host...would I? Quite possibly. The point here is that, exactly like you've said, God is both. If God is genuinely everything then you can't say that something is "good" or "evil" simply because it happens to be convenient or not for us personally.

We all have a Soul, I believe animals too have, maybe even plants.

I see. And...if you were a farm chicken confined to a cage all your life...or if you were a slaghterhouse cow would it be reasonable to conclude that the humans imprisoning, killing and eating...or if the case of the chicken, stealing your children and eating them...would it be reasonable to conclude that the humans were an "evil" that needed purging?

You asked about the evil elements

If God is everything...what is this "evil" thing you're talking about? Isn't it entirely subjective?

I i was a "bug" Id wonder why we are allowed to carry on doing bad
things and when the programmer will fix this.

Would you? Or would you perceive yourself as good, and perceive the things negatively affected by you as "food?"

I realise i use strange analogies but try putting a feeling into words. The actual feeling of being part of this mechanism is gone, but the belief and faith remains

Yes, words are inadequete. But now that you've had the experience, you have all the time in the world to examine the meaning of it.

I now believe in God.

I think overall my point is to not assume that others who believed in God before you did know more about it than you do. They might not. You've had an enlightening experience, and you have a new perspective that you didn't have before. And that's a good thing. Other people believe in God, andnow you do too. Ok. But...just because they believe in God doesn't mean that all the other things they believe are true too.

Very neat little story.

Did 'God' say anything? I'm not too familiar with astral projection so I don't really know how this stuff works, I mean if you have restrictions as far as what you can do or anything...

This is how I perceive God as well. As Everything, Creation and yet still a distinct Being, both male and female. The aspects that interest me are would be, do we have to think of God as One being, or could this Spirit reflect itself as a Family, a Man, a Woman, a Child, as the gnostics believe? The Trinity was never as hard for me to grasp, even though I only scratched the surface, when I was younger and attended Church. I could easily see God, and within that the active or Spoken Creational Force or Word, being the Son (Daughter) and the Love or Spirit or Wisdom being the Holy Spirit. But I'm not really convinced God needs all that knowledge, since most people don't understand this, why is it necessary to understand? Whatever is the truth, many traditional religions believe God cares if you get this wrong. But when I was much younger, and knowing I had to leave the Church and was troubled, I had a vision of myself as a 3 year old on the beach, picking up grains of sand, and turning them around to study them from every angle, then putting them in my bucket. The answer was that yes, it was good examine these issues, but not even the theologians of the Churches agreed, never mind amongst different faiths. I was 3!!! I had to make my choice according to my heart and seek Guidance. Consequently the most important thing we can do is be true to our inner truth. And in the gnostic way allow the Creator to enlighten us.

Originally posted by wisefoolishness
Very neat little story.

Did 'God' say anything? I'm not too familiar with astral projection so I don't really know how this stuff works, I mean if you have restrictions as far as what you can do or anything...

Nothing was said unfortunately. It is not like sitting in the vicinity of God but rather..feeling it, in an instant understanding the fabric of the universe and how everything is connected to something bigger.
There is something out there =)