23% of Texans believe Obama is a Muslim, page 3
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reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 12:14 PM by HunkaHunka
reply to post by sos37



It's not that it's cool to be anti-religious. It's that all the religious folks who decided that their beliefs should be upheld by the law of the land kind of ruined it for them.

Back when religion and politics were things that didn't mix, religion wasn't an issue. If it were not for the fact that W and KR brought religion into the mix of politics, the anti-religious movement wouldn't have any steam.

Now, granted there are many other reasons to be anti-religous today. Specifically the amount of self-hatred that many so called Christians practice today as well as the hatred of others that many so called Muslims practice today.

Personally, I was raised in a Christian church that had an audience of farmers. We were never exhorted to hate ourselves or anyone else, simply to pray for rain and help those in need. That being the case, I don't have an axe to grind with religion in general. However, I do have an axe to grind with any citizen of America who doesn't believe in Freedom.

The thing that gets me is that, at least in Christianity, our avatar asks us to love our neighbors as our self, not turn our neighbors into ourself. The whole point of this axiom was "Learn to love your neighbors despite what you see as their shortcommings, even as you love your ownself despite your shortcomings."

This was a huge point of most avatars during the Axial Age because if a society is to find a social identity in a time when people of different religious backgrounds and creeds live amongst eachother, then you have to learn to get along with them despite your differences. And running around saying God Hates Fags (or whatever else someone wants to throw hate at) is not a method towards getting along.


reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 01:58 PM by David9176
reply to post by jimmyx





anybody believing in anything else or not believing at all...they won't even win a primary.


How many nations out there....that have a majority of people believing one religion....have had someone in the religious minority as their President or leader?

Are there any out there? Most countries are based on their religion. I'm not saying it's right...it's just what it seems to be.

There will never be world peace because religion and race will always be a divider...it's sad.

John Lennon's "imagine"...it's a good vision...but unfortunately i don't think it's ever going to happen.


reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 03:43 PM by Anonymous ATS
TOLERANCE IS THE LAST VIRTUE OF A DYING SOCIETY. Aristotle

"I have figured out something that makes all of this election make sense. I was going nuts trying to figure out why people were learning the truth about one candidate’s corrupt history and his evil designs on us, and then that Americans were still going to vote for him. I analyzed it to death . . . then I figured it out. For at least 20 years our schools and society have had just one virtue. It has been taught in every way possible. It has been brainwashed into our culture. That virtue is "tolerance." There is nothing right or wrong absolutely. There is only one thing that is unacceptable . . . that is "intolerance." It is the only real sin.

The intolerant person wants the Ten Commandments posted. He wants human life protected. He insists that the things some do are not acceptable. He must be squashed and silenced by hate speech legislation or whatever it takes. His character must be impugned. He must be rendered impotent. The fellowship of the "tolerant" kicks in. "If you are intolerant of this [this political candidate], then we will be FOR him. He is one of us. You are an evil intolerant person. How dare you mention his lies or problems! YOU must be extinguished and we will support him."

The more evil and deception is exposed, the more the masses love the deception. There seems to be no way to win these "tolerant" people to our side and to truth, as there is no truth in their eyes. They consider themselves virtuous because it is another act of tolerance. "

"… the majority of Americans have settled for this mantle of deception, “tolerance”. It has permeated society through the educational programming of the last forty years, and the lack of parents passing on the torch of Truth to their children with conviction and integrity. We have realized too late that IDEAS DO HAVE CONSEQUENCES, and our assumptions do determine our conclusions! However history is written over these next few days, it is important for those of us who are truly believers to respond in these “gloriously dark times” as is befitting one who follows Jesus Christ. Jesus came to serve and to die and to give His life as a ransom for those who would receive Him (Mark 10:45). We might not be able to “fight the system” but we can live for the glory of God where He has us, making a difference in our areas of influence. There will be a cost, perhaps unpleasant circumstances, but are we willing to get serious and arm ourselves for what might be our “calling” for such a time as this?"

Although the fig tree shall not blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines; the labor of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no meat; the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls: Yet I will rejoice in the Lord, I will joy in the God of my salvation. The Lord God is my strength and he will make my feet like hinds’ feet, and he will make me to walk upon mine high places. Habakkuk 3:17-19a



reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 06:00 PM by Kailassa
reply to post by Anonymous ATS
So Christianity is antithetical to tolerance?

You want to protect all life unless it's Muslim?
Or you want to protect all life until after it's born?

Thanks for supporting my view that we need people in power who don't subscribe to ancient superstitions.


reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 10:10 PM by CureWish
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy



it's all part of "their" plan... divide and conquer, that's how they get us!

we all need to just realize how much we have in common with each other and stop segregating one another. too many negative vibes in the world right now.

ps--- count me in as one of the many texan ats members....yeeehaaw!1!

[edit on 31/10/08 by CureWish]


reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 10:24 PM by MetatronCubensis
They only got like .2 percent of Texans in that.
I think this document is at least eye opening
smithfiles.com...
He went by Barry Soetoro back when he was an Indonesian citizen (and lied about it to the Supreme Court of Illinois) and it clearly states his religion as 'Islam'.
This should clear some things up for people, haha.


reply posted on 1-11-2008 @ 10:47 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by Marcus Calpurnius



I would love to see that statistic sourced.

Also, it isn't just that they are so uneducated that they believe he is a Muslim, but also that they care that he is a Muslim.

There is nothing wrong with being Muslim.
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