Hawaii Governor Seals Obama Birth Certificate

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posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 01:27 PM
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Hawaii Governor Seals Obama Birth Certificate


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The governor of Hawaii has ordered Sen. Barack Obama's birth certificate to be sealed, according to reports.

Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, R-Hawaii, the state's first female governor, allegedly placed Mr. Obama's birth certificate under seal and instructed the state's Department of Health to make sure no one in the press obtains access to the original document under any circumstances, according to the online news service, World Net Daily.
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posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 01:27 PM
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My goodness, is this really happening?

This may be nothing but "Smoke and mirrors" because they may just be trying to hide something that does not even exist.

How can this be verified?

Why is everything about "O" is being suppressed?

There is something to be said about this being a REAL pre-cursor to the "Police State"

Wake up folks!!

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posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 01:37 PM
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If Obama dosen't produce a valid birth certificate by November 3rd, then he should immediately step down. The Governor of Hawaii and the State of Hawaii basis of Identity Theft is without reason, therefore the whole thing stinks of a coverup.


Dear Hawaii, My company was going to have a nice trip to your state for a business meeting and we expected to pay out around $500,000.00 in hotel and business expenses. We're going someplace else instead, you don't care about moral elections, and we no longer care about you.

ps. We'll buy phillipine produce from now on.

I think I will vote either Constitution or Libertarian Party, and no votes to incumbents, they all need to go rot.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 01:42 PM
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What is strange is that she is a Republican yet she is standing in the way of the one thing that can bring down Obama.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 01:45 PM
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So, if there is a birth certificate, registered in Hawaii, then surely it proves that Mr. Obama was indeed born there in order for that certificate to exist.

Why not send off a few requests with the names of people taken at random from a Hawaiian phone book, requesting copies of their birth certificates too?
If they refuse due to previously mentioned privacy concerns then that should make the point nicely.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by Britguy
Why not send off a few requests with the names of people taken at random from a Hawaiian phone book, requesting copies of their birth certificates too?
If they refuse due to previously mentioned privacy concerns then that should make the point nicely.


Hmmm... are these randomly selected people running for the highest office in the land? A position which, as defined in our United States Constitution clearly has natural born citizenship (with limited exceptions granted to those born to military families whith both parents being citizens) as a requirement?

Please, look up 'apples' in the dictionary, then look up 'oranges' and notice that when comparing the two, the only real similarity is they're both fruits.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by deathhasnosound
What is strange is that she is a Republican yet she is standing in the way of the one thing that can bring down Obama.


Very strange, huh?

I'm sorry, but I am tired of all the Obama is not an American, Obama is Muslim, Obama is this, the media is covering up that stuff online. If you don't like him, fine, but find a reason in his issues. He's not experienced enough for you, fine, but stop calling him a non-american, muslim, terrorist, socialist, commie.

The media may be capable of covering up things, but do you really, really think they would be able to cover up the fact that Obama is not a citizen? You don't think that this rumor would have been uncovered by some reporter somewhere? Or someone in the Hawaii Governor's Republican administration?

Here is the Birth Certificate - www.swamppolitics.com...


This is only my 2nd post here, usually I just read the information, but finally motivated to start trying to participate.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 02:10 PM
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Or... is the Republican Governor doing this to make it appear that there IS something incriminating there when in fact there is not? You would think that if there was really something weighty with all this birth certificate talk it would have been brought to light by now. IO mean, look at all the BS stuff being dredged-up.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 02:11 PM
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Don't you think if there was any value in this the Republicians would be "all over it?" It is all a bunch of crap! Or.....the Republicians are hiding something of their own. Politics sux!!! We need to take back our country you guys!!



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by 2stepsfromtop
If Obama dosen't produce a valid birth certificate by November 3rd, then he should immediately step down.




Why would he step down? Everything he has done up to this point has been the stuff of cloak and dagger stories. Even before he becomes president (if he does) he allready has more questions that clinton and bush in the past 16 years.

The majority of his campaign has been about driving home the word Change, not about the truth about him, the issues, or America for that matter. No way does he step down, this has been his plan since day one.

As for sealing the birth certificate, I'm surprized they re-raised this issue so close to the election. Why come out now and say this, should have either been done months ago or never done. This just gives the issue legs in the media again. I personally believe he has a legit birth certificate somewhere, I mean you need one to get a passport. Why not just release it and kill off the conspiracy theories?



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 02:12 PM
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I don't like either one of the candidates but it seems there is so much mystery behind Obama. Suppressed tapes, attempted bribes for tapes, the list goes on and on. I posted this in a different thread - I hope everyone has seen this

smithfiles.com...

Barry has already lied to the supreme court of illinois...
hopefully Berg can stop him from continuing to lie to the american people



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by dcdrifter
Here is the Birth Certificate -


actually - no. That's a certificate of birth. It's something entirely different then a Birth Certificate. Also - the certificate of birth is in question as to it's validity. (look at the race of Obama's father - it's listed as African. Africa isn't a race - back then it would have been black, negro or negroid)


Originally posted by salchanra
Everything he has done up to this point has been the stuff of cloak and dagger stories.

This IS a conspiracy site, ya' know!



Originally posted by Alxandro
My goodness, is this really happening?

yes. The American people want to see for themselves a Birth Certificate before voting for someone for POTUS. That person isn't showing it and in fact is BLOCKING their access at every point. Frightening, eh? What's more frightening is that people are still going to vote for this guy - with all his baggage and his dodging.


Wake up folks!!

I agree ... to everyone - wake the hell up!



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 02:55 PM
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FlyersFan - Do you also have a problem with McCain's citizen status? At least Obama has released something...McCain still has not released any proof, and there is just as much uncertainty in his situation as there is with Obama.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by dcdrifter
FlyersFan - Do you also have a problem with McCain's citizen status?


No. He is a child of a US Military family born while the family was stationed overseas. There are tons of kids born that way. Also - Our government issued a statement stating that he was in fact an American by birth.

No problem.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 02:58 PM
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The Great Obama Swindle of 2008

This article is linked from the Steve Quayle site.

It discusses this subject and the Contstitution.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 03:00 PM
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Hate to tell you, but under the laws of MOST OF THE STATES IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, it would be illegal for the press (or anyone else for that matter) to obtain a copy of another persons birth record.

Ever hear of identity theft? That's why those kind of laws are in place.

The governor had nothing to do with this, that's the law.

You conspiracy freaks are really stupid, aren't you?



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 03:03 PM
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I think this topic is dead, or maybe I am missing something.

Didn't a federal judge recently rule that the only group with jurisdiction in this matter is the USA Congress?

In other words, since it is the Legislative Branch that defines what "natural born" means, it is only the Legislative Branch that can raise an objection to Obama, and that isn't going to happen, regardless.

Why is this such a big deal? Perhaps "natural born" includes someone whose parents were natural born.

Dead topic or not -- I am sure many people are going to be responding to this thread. Some people obviously think this is fascinating.

[edit on 30-10-2008 by Buck Division]



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by OldMedic
Ever hear of identity theft?

His identity can't get stolen from his Birth Certificate.
Impossible.


You conspiracy freaks are really stupid, aren't you?

Actually, those that blindly believe what poltiicians pump out are the stupid ones.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by dcdrifter
FlyersFan - Do you also have a problem with McCain's citizen status?


No. He is a child of a US Military family born while the family was stationed overseas. There are tons of kids born that way. Also - Our government issued a statement stating that he was in fact an American by birth.

No problem.



Actually, there are a lot of problems still with McCain's situation. The Senate did pass a non-binding resolution earlier this year proclaiming that McCain is a natural born citizen, but the key is that it was non-binding. The funny thing is that McCain needed a Senate resolution to help take the spotlight off his citizenship status, where is Obama didn't have that problem...

Also, From the State Dept:

"Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth."

Taken from (warning pdf): www.state.gov...

Of course, both are citizens due to the fact that their parents (or parent) were citizens...but it seems to me that McCain has a harder time being qualified as a "natural born citizen" as the constitution requires. Unless of course that Obama's Certificate of Live Birth (thanks for the correction btw!) is a total fabrication, which I personally don't believe. I think a Republican Governor would have found a way to make that apparent to a member of the media.

Again, I would argue that McCain has just as much shadiness surrounding his situation as Obama. I personally believe both are American citizens.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

You conspiracy freaks are really stupid, aren't you?

Actually, those that blindly believe what poltiicians pump out are the stupid ones.


And there, we achieve complete agreement. Once again, oddly, I find myself connecting completely with FlyersFan, irrespective of everything else.

Thanks, buddy. There is a lot of common ground outside of this election.


[edit on 30-10-2008 by Buck Division]





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