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Tinley Park UFO - Calling all the UFO debunker's out - Debunk this one!

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posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 04:03 PM
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In fairness, I can create a equilateral triangle and, by turning it in front of my eye, create multiple optical variations. Nothing more than perspective, as I am sure you are aware.

However, for these objects to be a solid object, I would imagine that there would be a visible glint of the material between the lights during SOME point while this thing was twisting through the air. And I wouldn't imagine a craft that could hover would be subject to whipping through the wind.




posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 04:05 PM
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Wow!

3 lights in the sky. It must be aliens or highly classified experimental craft.

This footage is no different from all the other inconclusive crap you get on here.

Nothing to see as usual!

[edit on 30-10-2008 by mrman81]



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 04:09 PM
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Like I said, you need to watch the episode. I had to post what was available as this is a relativly new sighting and even the mainstream doesn't really know about it yet.

This was featured on the season premier of UFO Hunters and if after watching that you still feel the same then please let us know.

It will be rebroadcast on 11-02 at 11:00 PM eastern on the History Channel.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 04:12 PM
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not having a digg but honestly, is this the best you/they can come up with? Not worth watching really is it. I need convincing beyond resonable doubt. Sorry but 3 lights in a dark sky is not gonna do that for me they could be anything.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 04:17 PM
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As I brought up in the thread I made last night it doesn't really matter if we can identify it or not. Either it's Chinese lanterns or something else and it goes in the pile with all the other misidentifications. Or it ends up being a craft and it ends up going in the pile with all the other craft. After that you can't make any sort of conclusion as to what it is other than it's unidentified. You can't objectively state its origin from the footage shown, nor can the people that were there to witness it. It just ends up being another story in the annals of ufology. Personally I think the important question is not whether this was a UFO or not, but what Tinley Park might have in common with the other places this was allegedly sighted. If something substantial were to turn up it would certainly be more important than whether this was a UFO or not because then we might be able to start understanding UFOs beyond just lights in the sky.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 04:22 PM
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im sure your smart enough to determine that its not a single plane, or three planes when you watch this video. or a helicopter, or a blimp or flares attached to balloons.. but im sorry you said it could be ANYTHING.. thats not going to hold much discussion weight if you ask me.

so your saying it could be anything? really...

no. its ONE thing.. unclassified and most likely non earthly.

facts:
1500 foot surface area
located in the most popular air space in america, whose residence young and old are familiar with air traffic in their own home town.
multiple witnesses
travels slow, stops in some cases and moves slow again.
the filmers are obviously worked up by the sighting, just watch the episode if you get a chance.
FAA denies that anything is in the air.
multiple video clips from canada to chicago to australia...

i know YOUR only interested if you get to see a nice shiny metal object, but the fact of the matter is that its usually in the case of lights in the sky which display arial phenomena that human body cannot withstand, or stability a weighted object cannot produce. i suggest you re-evaluate what the simply boring twinkling fuzzy lights in the sky mean to you, cause they are obviously important to thousands of people. just dont want you to miss the BIG picture is all.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by TH3ON3


Like I said, you need to watch the episode. I had to post what was available as this is a relativly new sighting and even the mainstream doesn't really know about it yet.


Apparently not so new:

The official sightings first got attention on October 31, 2004. On this Halloween night, more than one dozen residents of Tinley Park, and nearby Orland Park, reported seeing a strange series of lights in the sky. Those who looked at the lights at first concluded that they were very bright stars. The people who donned binoculars observed that they weren't stars; but flying objects. The objects moved in a strange, triangular pattern.


In October, 2005, the lights were again observed over Tinley Park. More residents called the newspaper and the National UFO Reporting Center.

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posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 04:36 PM
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we all know that media does present the event as occuring but they dont make an effort to put it in the publics eye..

pulling up a an external source just to prove that his statement is half false..come on phage.. did that actually humor you?


i do however agree with you that the sighting is not NEW new..such as the stephenville lights which has had recent activity all the way up until last night. but i can see how 2004/2005 is still new content. im sure you can relate.


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posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 04:38 PM
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I wasn't trying to "prove" anything. Just pointing out that it is not a "new" sighting.

Oh, and by the way, Halloween is here again. Apparently there is something particularly attractive at this time of year.

[edit on 30-10-2008 by Phage]



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 04:39 PM
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let me explain what the meaning of "relative" is:

Relative - Noun: a thing having a relation to or connection with or necessary dependence on another thing.

The video had to be analyzed and a complete investigation undertaken, which included interviewing all the witnesses and then gathering experts to analyze the footage, and finally putting it all together, so debunker's will have almost nothing to point to other than vague inferences to perceived errors by third parties not actually associated with the original investigation.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 04:41 PM
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Thank you for the definition.
Again you have corrected my ignorance. I thought relative was my uncle.

[edit on 30-10-2008 by Phage]



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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Thank you for the definition.
Again you have corrected my ignorance. I thought relative was my uncle.

[edit on 30-10-2008 by Phage]


Yes that too, and your momma!



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 04:49 PM
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halloween..ok i can see where the mysterious time of year comes into play..

im actually thinking pumpkins (jackolanterns) floating in the night sky.

personally i dont think halloween has anything to do with it since it didnt occur on halloween only.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 06:01 PM
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1500 feet of surface area is speculation, not fact. I don't see compelling evidence that points to it being a solid object.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 06:14 PM
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during the episode it was concluded that the lights seemed to change the shape of the triangle. from different perspective this was concluded as one "shape" which was sort of tumbling end over end in the sky. keeping the shape of a perfect triangle. my question to you is..would it be easier to conlude that the object was one mass, or do we have three individual objects tumbling end over end in a perfect formation..and if the latter...would you agree that this can ONLY be done by intelligent life.




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posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 06:40 PM
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Wow.... I watched this episode today..... there's so much that they will never be able to debunk..... great job UFO Hunters...

God bless the history channel and the disclosure project.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by obsolete
The one from Melbourne, AU showed two of these objects (two sets of 3 lights in triangle pattern.)

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[edit on 10/30/2008 by obsolete]



woah what?im from melbourne AU - can you explain what happened?!



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 07:31 PM
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Very nice thread. Although it does look like a lot of other videos I have seen throughout the years, but the testimony seems pretty good, especially with a mass sighting.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 07:33 PM
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crazy I live in the chicagoland and never heard about this...I live rite by ohare and everyone was talking a couple years ago about the ufo at ohare...even air traffic controllers reported it to the faa and also airplane mechanics etc....



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 07:37 PM
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I haven't seen the program yet but I have a hunch these witnesses were not some of those interviewed:

Tinley Park resident Wally Bekta laughed when he was asked about what he saw in 2005 and voiced the eerie sounds, "do do do do do do." Then he realized he might get on TV. "They were flares on balloons," said Bekta, 48, who was hosting some friends at a firepit in his back yard in the 8200 block of Queen Victoria Lane. "I spotted them. They just came across the house next to us over the peak of the roof, no more than 50 feet over the peak of the house. They were climbing and rising. We got a very good look at them." Does he believe in UFOs? "No." His friend, David Palagi, is even more detailed in his description. And he doesn't believe the lights were life from another planet. "It was extremely clear," said Palagi, who also was at Bekta's home. "There was no doubt in my mind they were red helium balloons and flares suspended by a string of rope. They were just over (Bekta's) next-door neighbor's house, just climbing up over the distance." Palagi, 54, said he had seen the red lights a few months before that evening, but they were much higher in the sky, at least as high as an airplane.

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