Ron Paul on Obama: "...they support him, but they like me."

"...they support him, but they like me."

(sorry but there is a 16 sec. commercial at the beginning because it is coming from an MSNBC page.)

At 4:26 in the above vid. from last night's Maddow show Ron Paul says seems to infer that a lot of his supporters are now supporting Obama.

Is this an endorsement incognito?

What do you think? -I know that there are a lot of Paul supporters on this site and I wonder what you all think straight from the horses mouth.

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I like Ron Paul, but I don't support Obama (or McCain).

Frankly, if Paul had run as an independent, I think he might (repeat - might) have actually had a chance to serve the nation as President.

Unfortunately, the "Party" chooses the president, not the people.

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This is what most Ron Paul supporters seem to say. Or at least it seems. So Paul's comment kind of threw me for a loop. I would have thought that he wouldn't even hint at any sort of comparison whatsoever. And I even speculated myself that his supporters would rather lean McCain... so... huh?

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You've really never noticed that?

Maybe it's just because I live in seattle, but during the primaries you saw almost nothing but RON PAUL signs all over the city. Now that it's down to the 2 main candidates, there seems to be only OBAMA signs in everyone's windows.

I think what "young people" that Ron paul refers to really want is change. The smart ones knew that Ron Paul was the best chance for change, but believe Obama is the next best thing. I think that explains why so many Ron Paul supporters would switch to Obama despite them having very different policies. Maybe people aren't conservatives or liberals anymore, maybe either system can work.

Think about how many votes the republicans would have taken from the dems if they had gone with Ron Paul. I bet you'd see a landslide republican victory. Stupid republicans, they blew it, just so they could put up their celebrity politician.

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Maybe I'm too out of the "young people" loop. I just turned 30. But I know a few Ron Paul supporters here in Minneapolis and they like McCain. I'm still trying to work 'em.

Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
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You've really never noticed that?

Maybe it's just because I live in seattle, but during the primaries you saw almost nothing but RON PAUL signs all over the city. Now that it's down to the 2 main candidates, there seems to be only OBAMA signs in everyone's windows.

I think what "young people" that Ron paul refers to really want is change. The smart ones knew that Ron Paul was the best chance for change, but believe Obama is the next best thing. I think that explains why so many Ron Paul supporters would switch to Obama despite them having very different policies. Maybe people aren't conservatives or liberals anymore, maybe either system can work.

Think about how many votes the republicans would have taken from the dems if they had gone with Ron Paul. I bet you'd see a landslide republican victory. Stupid republicans, they blew it, just so they could put up their celebrity politician.

also due to the fact that seattle is a very blue city and will always be
Im in seattle as well and only know of 4-5 people who like McCain

look at all the states with major big cities, almost all are blue states

a vast population with a multi cultural setting tends to lean towards democratic

Conservative reds dont really fit in with big city life due to their fear of diverseness

hahaha

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Yes. All the people I "know" who are McCain people are definitely small town. It is sad but true or maybe coincidental. I don't think McCain is proud of that fact.

edited to say not all of them are bigoted... that I know of.

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A republican party reformation is the best thing that could possibly happen to this country. Either the party will return to what it should be, or it will become a monster so despicable that it will die in writhing horrid agony on the side of the road to be forgotten in two election cycles.

also due to the fact that seattle is a very blue city and will always be

You didn't read my post. Seattle is not as blue as you think. Yeah the city is leaning democrat now, but you can't tell me Ron Paul's name didn't dominate the windows, yards, and bumper stickers of seattle during the primaries. Don't forget, Ron Paul is a RED candidate. So what's the common thread between a conservative like Paul and a liberal like Obama? Change. Or at least thats what those 2 have led us to believe.

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Small towns and rural areas trend more conservative because they have to stand on their own and dont like people butting in.

Cities trend liberal because middle-class people dont live in cities. Cities have two kinds of people living in them. Dependents who live in poverty and need access to welfare, drug clinics, rehabs, AA meetings, abundant no-education required minimum wage employment opportunities, a dense population to commit crimes against. And those rich enough to insulate themselves from all that garbage.

The poor dependents vote for free money or wealth redistribution. The uppity rich people vote for the Ivy League image and guilt-relieving socialist policies.

The rural areas vote to be left the hell alone.

Generally speaking of course.

I was born and raised in that Ivy League crap and lived much of my life right smack in the middle of it. I fled and never looked back.

Cities, any areas with a high population density in general, are horrible places to live. Theyre soul-crushing and enslaving.

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I dont think those RP signs were up because people followed his issues. I think they were up simply because he was the 'alt' or 'hip' candidate. He and Obama couldnt be more opposite. The only way RP supporters could go on to support Obama is if they never had any idea what RP was all about in the first place beyond a superficial 'he's different' attitude.

If that's the case maybe the area isnt leaning blue or red.
It's just leaning ignorant like so many other areas.

I guess I can only really speak for myself, but like a lot of Ron Paul supporters I will not vote for either canidate. I tried my hardest to drink the Obama Kool-Aid but when it came down to it I couldn't swallow. Here in Maine I see a lot of McCain signs in the front lawns and I don't know if it is because Obama does not want to spend money on that type of thing or I'm surrounded by numb nuts but at this point I guess it is my summation that Obama is the lesser of the two evils ??

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ill admit paul was all over mostly in seattle, but when i saw who the majority of the people were, mostly young newcomers who've never voted or just barely old enough to vote

I liked alot of pauls ideas, but he was too conservative for me, i would not of voted for him

but i commended his ideas and rational thinking and knowledge of how screwed things are

i wouldnt mind seeing obama placing him in a greater spot in the senate where is able to make change in some way

Ron Paul endorsed Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution party.. and has not endorsed Obama. I think he is just stating that Some of his supporters are supporting Obama.. WHy i have no clue, just like I have no clue how Hillary supporters are supporting McCain/Palin.. well i know why there supporting any woman that sets foot in politics.. but it only proves how unprincipled people are.. they have no principles.. how can a Democratic thinker support McCain's camp .. or a Ron Paul Supporter support Obama, there almost total opposites, Ron Paul is Freedom orentated, pro personal responsibility and Obama is share the wealth, dont take care of your self let government take care of you.. Like oil and water.

I just don't get voters.. no principles or morals.. but then again the sheeple term comes up yet again.. BAhhhh

No you guys, I think people, at least in seattle it seems, would prefer change period. They don't care if its a lib or a con, they just want something different than the past 8 years, and McCain doesn't offer that, so most of Seattle is going Obama, since Paul is out, and unfortunately most people don't wanna "waste a vote" on one of the third parties(although many in Seattle do, myself included). It's really not that hard to understand why a paul supporter would switch to Obama. You guys really don't see it?

It's all about change.

Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
No you guys, I think people, at least in seattle it seems, would prefer change period. They don't care if its a lib or a con, they just want something different than the past 8 years, and McCain doesn't offer that, so most of Seattle is going Obama, since Paul is out, and unfortunately most people don't wanna "waste a vote" on one of the third parties(although many in Seattle do, myself included). It's really not that hard to understand why a paul supporter would switch to Obama. You guys really don't see it?

It's all about change.

i do get it, but paul is out completely (not enough votes) and i think obama is close enough to change than mccain is or will ever be

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So they think Obama offers change? He's going to keep growing the government. Keep the war(s) on and possibly start one up with Pakistan. Keep using government to manipulate the economy in effort to "fix" it.

How is that any different?

I guess he's half not white and that's sort of different

Neither Obama nor McCain are going to change anything. Obama is going after my guns and I'm in a close state so I'll vote McCain but neither is 'change' 'hope' or 'chope.'

thisguyrighthere

I have no idea if Obama is going to change anything(I suspect not), only time will tell. But he has run a campaign based on this idea of change as did Paul (revolution).

Change and revolution, isn't that the same thing? Whether or not either of these candidates offer any change I simply do not know, but since they are/were running a campaign based on it, I suspect that that is what fans of Paul see in Obama.

I'm not hear to debate whether or not Obama offers change, but I suspect that the fact he's offering it scored him a lot of former paul voters.

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Okay, I get ya.

They're voting for catch phrases.

That's sad.

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...I liked alot of pauls ideas, but he was too conservative for me, i would not of voted for him

but i commended his ideas and rational thinking and knowledge of how screwed things are

i wouldnt mind seeing obama placing him in a greater spot in the senate where is able to make change in some way

I agree completely with all of the above.

I would also say the same thing about Kucincich.