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CIA Can Hide Torture Allegations, Court Rules

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posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 11:10 AM
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CIA Can Hide Torture Allegations, Court Rules


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The CIA can hide statements from imprisoned suspected terrorists that the agency tortured them in its set of secret prisons, a federal judge ruled Wednesday,

Chief Judge Royce Lamberth of the Washington D.C. Circuit Court declined to review the government's assertions that the allegations of torture from men held in the CIA's black site prisons -- whether truthful or not -- would put the nation at risk of grave danger if allowed to be made public.

"The Court, giving deference to the agency’s detailed, good-faith declaration, is disinclined to
second-guess the agency in its area of expertise through in camera review," Lamberth wrote (.pdf), referring to a procedure where a judge looks at evidence in his chamber without showing it to the opposing side.

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posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 11:10 AM
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Unreal.

So the criminality is allowed to carry on, courtesy of another "appointed" corrupt judge.

So much for the Geneva conventions. What a joke this has all become, and not a very funny one.

Pretty sad when the most "war-instigating" institution on the face of the earth is granted free reign to conduct some of the most sickening human rights violations in modern times, granted by our corrupt "legal system"...

Sigh.

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(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 11:15 AM
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This is why so many across the globe hate the U.S. And if things keep going south figuratively and literally I may be with them.

respectfully

reluctantpawn



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 11:20 AM
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Well right now people are hating Sudan. I think the U.S. is like right behind in the list.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 11:24 AM
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Especially when they use the UK as a flight stop of point to some torture destinations.

Disgusted with the US and also my own "government" in the UK for turning a blind eye to this



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 11:26 AM
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How much hate is there on the UK? Think the terrorist attacks on the UK is a preview of that hate?



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 11:29 AM
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Where are the stars and flags folks? Come on this is bad, really bad. We as American citizens should demand more from our Government. Bush and Cheney need to be bagged and tagged and waterboarded in secret.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 11:41 AM
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so we should treat these dirt bags that were tying to kill us kindly and not get intelligence that could prevent a terrorist attack? i will look the other way if my government can prevent another attack.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 11:48 AM
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Yes, thats all well and good. But would you like to be on the recieving end of it if you were picked up of the street by and agency and held/tortured?(which they can do).

@ deltaboy:

The most hate on the UK, I feel, is from the uk population themselves.

Whether the recent attempt at blowing up off Glasgow airport has anything to do with this, I'm unsure. But apparently, it is somewhere is Scotland where these planes land before continuing.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 11:54 AM
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news.yahoo.com...


GAUHATI, India – A series of coordinated blasts tore through northeast India on Thursday, killing at least 61 people and sending police scrambling to find any unexploded bombs in a province troubled by years of separatist violence and ethnic tensions.

At least 300 people were injured in the 13 blasts, most caused by bombs and at least one from a hand grenade, said said Subhash Das, a senior official in Assam state's Home Ministry. Das said at least 31 people lost their lives in five explosions in the state capital, Gauhati.

The largest bomb exploded near the secretariat — the office of the Assam state's top government official — leaving bodies and mangled cars and motorcycles strewn across the road. Bystanders dragged the wounded and dead to cars that took them to hospitals. Police officers covered the burned remains of the dead with white sheets, leaving them in the street.


Somebody around here is hating India.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Velvet Death
so we should treat these dirt bags that were tying to kill us kindly and not get intelligence that could prevent a terrorist attack? i will look the other way if my government can prevent another attack.


During the revolutionary war we were reveared for the humane treatment of captive combatants. We have written, signed and ratified the UN charter and under
article 6 of the US Constitution that, with the Geneva Convention, are supreme law of the land. We Dont Torture. Secondly some of the people being tortured don't even have anything to do with terrorism. They were picked up in sweeps of mass arrests and most held have not been charged with anything Years after their imprisonment. This is not just illegal by international law it is illegal here at home and just plain unamerican.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 12:49 PM
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more proof of fascist USA , being created ....

socialism for rich, looting of poor, genocide in poor countries like Iraq , USA is disgusting



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 01:25 PM
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Thanks DD for bringing this op!


I must, once again, set up my soap-box and remind everyone who cares to read my input.

I am an American citizen. I am NOT the government of the United States. The government of the United States is not me.

What these power-crazed ideologues do is NOT within the realm of control of the public...., for those of you living in other countries - we are just like you. You can no more control your leaders than we can, if you think you can, you are as enslaved as we are; for many of us think we are free too. Many THINK they have a say, but in the end the government cabal does whatever it pleases. All we do is pay the price.

You want to hate the USA, fine, be my guest, if it helps have a nice long hate. But I will not be associated with it's actions as if I, as an American, were sitting around wringing my hands in malicious glee while we kill, and destroy everything we dislike.

It is not the Americans, nor is it the people - it's the elite socialite power whores who look to secure THEIR position in the game played by the global elite. Rich man's war, poor man's fight.

As for the incredibly naive notion that they are 'preventing' terrorism by torturing someone, figure the odds.
. Stop watching TV and start thinking for yourself. These people want you to believe that what they do somehow 'serves' your interests. Really think about it. Think hard. WHAT could they learn from an Afghani soldier, trained to fight in his own country, against tyrants we happened to support? This isn't an episode of 24. In fact, it's nothing like it.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
How much hate is there on the UK? Think the terrorist attacks on the UK is a preview of that hate?





Are you referring to 7/7?

Seems I recall that British security services were engaged in terrorist attack simulations at the exact time and at the exact places where the attacks occured. Same as 9/11.

Could it be that the people that hate the US and the UK are the men behind the curtain in those counties?




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