Originally posted by rjmelter
oh so here is your true agenda
Just the truth as far as i can tell...
Im sorry ignorance seems to love you much
At least it ain't following me around.
You have a lot of hate, you keep blaming people and blaming people
Hate is a very personal emotion and i don't hate anyone i know. I most certainly don't hate anyone i don't know; a emotion reserved for
South Africans have no right whatsoever
Certain segments ( the vast majority) who were formerly totally oppressed have every right to demand and expect some of the outrageous to be
acknowledged and 'paid' for ( prosecution or damages) and the fact that so many are so forgiving says a great deal more about the human spirit in
general than it says about the ruling classes who created the problems in the first place.
If they would work together their goals would be accomplished that is how it is in all cultures and religions and independently as people.
Nonsense. Those who have the wealth and power NEVER work with those who do not unless the poor oppressed majorities FORCE them in whatever ways they
can manage. Don't talk about 'cooperation' between self styled classes as if it's the reason the wealthy got wealthy in the first place.
ANY GOAL IS ACCOMPLISHABLE
Sure is if you can make those with the power and wealth accountable and prevent them from stealing even more from those around them...
you can call that naive but coming from a lower class American Family I understand... i understand that your ignorant and do not hear.. youd
rather blame all people.
It's not as naive as it's deeply arrogant and self satisfied nonsense coming from a person who lives in a country where the minimum wage will at
least keep a roof over your head and your stomach full. Since you don't know anything about poverty i suggest you just stop discussing it as if you
do. I have found that those who have a problem with the allocation of blame, or blame in general, are generally deserving of a great deal of it so
feel free to go on incriminating yourself in at least my eyes.
it wasnt just white people who had slaves it was a type of white people,
So what? White people in South Africa almost ALL found benefit by the system of oppression weather they were active racist or passively enjoyed the
ill gotten goods based on the actions of other whites. If you can not or do not wish to understand that the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of
white society in general you would probably also be one to argue that African Americans deserve their current situation as that's all their worthy
Rich upperclass whites who did not have a religion... the white people trying to save the black slaves through the underground railroad- my
family also a part of that thanks- what would you have done with them?
I would suppose that the multitude of slaves they saved ( or the individuals) would come to their defense if slaves ever came to be able to prosecute
them legally or otherwise? Why are you not willing to subject yourself to the judgement of the fellow human beings that you did not oppressed and
instead helped to escape oppression? You don't think people of different colors are smart enough to know that not all people of a given color or
ethnic grouping are the same? So much for not being a racist.
Its not about color its about greed, there is a group of white people in america that has relys on the lower and middles
And if you could only presume that i am not completely ignorant you wouldn't have to bore me with obvious facts.
If you would stop ranting and stop listening to yourself preach to the masses.. Stellar...the Savior.. Self Appointed of course...
Are YOU listening to yourself? Who appointed you to excuse massive segments of the white society in both the US and South Africa which went along with
the system as they benefited by it by accepting much the same racist sentiments as those who were actively destroying the native peoples?
you would see that you dont know what you speak just as much as I dont know all the facts... how could we? your just a puppet as am
At least i am not making excuses for those with economic and military power; you must really be proud of yourself for standing up for the little guy.
They rely on ignorance to survive... because it works for them.. Oppress all the threat....and there will be little... they can be dealt
What threat? What little?
If you really have a god...and i will disrespect yours now because he seems to be a fake god... who punishes all whites for their fathers doings..
One does not have to punish but one should at least write proper history with proper allocations of blame and responsibility. Why shouldn't the
children of the oppressors be 'punished' in the form of higher taxation so that the formerly oppressed can gain better educations and access to
health and social services? Should the children of the oppressors who had every opportunity to gain further educations or economic power really be
further coddled and generally protected from competition? Shouldn't those who experienced almost every disadvantage instead gain be granted more and
better opportunities in the job market? How would you bring about a more just world or would you , as most whites in South-Africa seem to feel, just
want blanket forgiveness to continue enjoying your economic power? So much for teaching many old dogs new tricks!
and their souls have been given up right then and there??
They have souls? Funny time to start insisting that these 'good' people who did so little should start asking for mercy....
Is that what im supposed to take? What it sounds like is your god supports your cause, not the cause of humanity, the God of love...
What god? Where did you get the asinine idea that i believe in any god or especially those who are the gods of the oppressors? God of love? You must
Your just proof of more hate, its probably why you found this thread and rant so much..
Some person rant is another person revelation; i can't cure your vast ignorance overnight but maybe in time i can chip away at it.
.I hope maybe one day you will see the injustice in this world and quit trying to steretype the blame.
Don't have to as in modern times it's pretty damn obvious where the blame falls; western European imperialism.
Maybe then the secrets would be revealed to you and youd understand how much hate you breed. you are a godless man.
What secrets? IT's funny that jails are filled with religious people ; one would expect that those without religions would tend towards criminal
behaviour, right? I am most certainly a godless man which honestly isn't a problem as humans exercised morality and cooperated peacefully long before
the advent of formal ( and most certainly monotheist) religion.
I suggest you learn the meaning of love before you open your ignorant mouth again.
To suggest that one learns anything about love in the bible is laughable. In fact it's far more prone to turn you into a raving mass murdering
lunatic ( because you love humanity i suppose) than any lack of religion ever has. If you want to learn the meaning of love it's probably too late as
it's something that is taught, not learnt.