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We need a place for Abductees moderated by Abductees

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posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:33 AM
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Differentiating:
1. To constitute the distinction between: subspecies that are differentiated by the markings on their wings.
2. To perceive or show the difference in or between; discriminate.
3. To make different by alteration or modification.




posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Have you ever thought of finding a board out there solely for abductees. I mean, clearly ATS isnt offering what YOU want.




Have you ever thought that my threads are not for you?



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by spacecowgirl

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Have you ever thought of finding a board out there solely for abductees. I mean, clearly ATS isnt offering what YOU want.




Have you ever thought that my threads are not for you?


Have you ever thought of including respect, morality, and dignity in your responses?



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by spacecowgirl
Oh but it IS TOLERATED here! Oh yes! I have seen an abductee abused mercilessly here. I sent 30 complaints about it and the abusers/skeptics hardly got a slap with a wet bus ticket.
Yes abusing abductees is fair game here. I have seen it with my own eyes. It is pitiful.


Well I don't know what to tell you. I don't believe for a second, that the staff would advocate the abuse of an ATS member. If you didn't get the desired results from sending in the complaints...perhaps you need to go to a SuperMod instead.

I have never been, nor have I ever witnessed, Abuse being tolearated on ATS. Perhaps I'm hanging out in the wrong threads...

- Carrot


[edit on 11/28/2008 by CA_Orot]



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:38 AM
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And yet all you seem able to do is point out spelling errors, and typos. My case is rested as to arguments as to whether or not you understand how to take criticism. Looks like you need to spend some more time reading ATS debates, or perhaps asking for information in the Freshy Forum.

Since you don't know how to take criticism, and use it constructively, and you also don't seem to know how to communicate with people very well, perhaps these are issues you best address with a doctor. When you've finished this, you may want to ensure that you have the appropriate social skills to engage in formal conversation with people.

By the way, the sky is Mango Orange.
Should you decide to disagree with what I think above, you are attacking me. *tries spacecowgirls logic*

[edit on 28.11.2008 by Shugo]



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by CA_Orot

Originally posted by spacecowgirl
Oh but it IS TOLERATED here! Oh yes! I have seen an abductee abused mercilessly here. I sent 30 complaints about it and the abusers/skeptics hardly got a slap with a wet bus ticket.
Yes abusing abductees is fair game here. I have seen it with my own eyes. It is pitiful.


Well I don't know what to tell you. I don't believe for a second, that the staff would advocate the abuse of an ATS member. If you didn't get the desired results from sending in the complaints...perhaps you need to go to a SuperMod instead.

I have never been, nor have I ever witnessed, Abuse being tolearated on ATS. Perhaps I'm hanging out in the wrong threads...

- Carrot


[edit on 11/28/2008 by CA_Orot]


Chances are that although in your mind it was merciless abuse, it did not violate ATS Terms.

As long as criticisms are not personal attacks, swearing, releasing information, or anything like this you are free to state your opinion on the validity of an individual and/or their claim.



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:39 AM
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Oh is this an alter ego of the previous poster? Wow! Nice to meet you!



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:43 AM
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I would watch the accusations. People get into trouble by making them. Perhaps instead of attacking the people who are discussing this issue with you, you could provide more reasons for the particular stance you have taken on this topic.

Just a thought.

- Carrot


[edit on 11/28/2008 by CA_Orot]



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by spacecowgirl
reply to post by blowfishdl
 


Oh is this an alter ego of the previous poster? Wow! Nice to meet you!


hahaha! Now that's funny, I do admire many of greeneyes responses but surely you can tell that I am a male and she a female. I don't even see a personality resemblance in our avatars. Her's isn't even close to as cool as mine is.

[edit on 11/28/08 by blowfishdl]



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:46 AM
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It would be great if we actually had some credible psychic abductee counselor type of moderator. I have asked before about a poll or a survey section for here.

These could help some of these people without the "skeptic inquisitions."

I see a christian counselor who has an attitude with me when I try to discuss this topic. This is typical for psychotherapy and probably what skeptics also might use "as if" to instill self doubt and use the label: " Delusion"

I've had proof and lost it. But without some display for ATS to video, it's just another story. Group therapy on ATS seems unlikely unless it's better controlled. I myself get angry and my patience is also thinning.

Lets discuss an alternative such as a detailed poll/survey and statisical probability with scores etc. I wonder if Jim Marrs would have some input on that.



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:49 AM
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Yeah, whatever. I have been around boards like this for a long long long time. Enough to know that some people have up to 15 personas that they use to either argue their point, badger, cajole or harrass others with such emphasis that other people start to believe them. LOL. I have only one. I can spot a fake ID at a 100 paces.



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:52 AM
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Then you are clearly mistaken my dear, your eyes have failed you this time.

ATS allows ONE account and ONE account Only. Did you not read the Terms and Conditions when you joined...?

- Carrot



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:52 AM
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And yet you lack the skills to communicate with people and a professional and mature manner. That seems a bit fuzzy to me. All you do is harp at people, what do you want their responses to be? You want them to take it? You know better than that, they harp at you, and you get all bent out of shape, what do you expect in return? Seriously.

Oh, excuse me for being a human and making a typo, I forgot, that means I'm stupid.


[edit on 28.11.2008 by Shugo]



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by spacecowgirl
reply to post by blowfishdl
 


Yeah, whatever. I have been around boards like this for a long long long time. Enough to know that some people have up to 15 personas that they use to either argue their point, badger, cajole or harrass others with such emphasis that other people start to believe them. LOL. I have only one. I can spot a fake ID at a 100 paces.


Any idea how much time it would take to build up this many points on both persona's (mine and Leos)? Not worth it to win petty arguments. I merely told you to be civil and constructive in your arguments. Something you are yet to achieve so far as I can see.



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by spacecowgirl
I have a thread going called :
» ATS Skunk Works » Why do abductees have to educate skeptics?


So is this like an advertisment thread?



Abductees do not mind people asking questions or taking an interest but as for debating if aliens are real or if we infact are insane, that has to stop. None of the threads can get anywhere due to this ignorant behavior that is rife here amongst disbelievers.


So you basically want a campfire thread where you can all join hands and sing kumbah? I mean why post your thoughts if you are unable or unwilling to defend claims that can border from interesting and believable to lets face it door number 3



For a start, NO ABDUCTEE IS INTERESTED IN SHOWING ANYONE PROOF. I want people to understand that, We don't care who believes us or not .


Then why post? He I invented electricity but don't ask me to prove it. Would you accept this on face value?

Rather than try an educate etc. you seem to have adopted this They are asking hard questions, so Im going to put up a shell around myself. :shk:

This type of mentality has done the UFo and abduction community NO good at all and simply reinforces the sterotypes many have worked hard to elimitate about said community.

[edit on 28/11/08 by Operation AJAX]



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:55 AM
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How funny and how naive you are. If only that was true!



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:55 AM
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Whenever you make a post, or even a new thread, you should be prepared, nay expecting, someone to disagree with you. In fact, as you hit the Post Reply button you should be eagerly awaiting the counter argument.

Why? Because this is a place of discussion NOT a place of agreement.

If you don't want to hear someone who disagrees with you then why are you even wasting our time with your words? Just start your own blog so that we can more easily ignore you.


Abduction threads are NOT FOR PEOPLE who don't believe in aliens.


Sorry you are wrong here and are trying to fit ATS into your ill-conceived notions about what an alternative community is.

ATS is NOT FOR PEOPLE who believe in something (anything) so unquestionably that they will refuse to even entertain the possibility of other explanations.

In fact, I think that line above should be codified into some rule or catchphrase. Like, oh, I don't know "Deny Ignorance" or something.

The issue of unquestioned belief is a huge sticking-point in conversations about religion, global warming, and abductions among other. I have seen people in all of those topics get upset simply because someone had the gall to disagree with them.

If what someone hopes to generate is approval and acceptance from a post on ATS, then all they really want is the equivalent of a place to get some ego porn. The presence of people with this mindset are not a benefit to a community which embraces NOT consolation but exploration as a key tenet.

Jon



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by spacecowgirl
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How funny and how naive you are. If only that was true!


You cannot create more than one account as it logs your IP address every time you register or even post.



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:58 AM
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sponses:

responses:
1. The act of responding.
2. An answer or reply. Specifically: (a) Reply to an objection in formal disputation. I. Watts. (b) (Eccl.) The answer of the people or congregation to the priest or clergyman, in the litany and other parts of divine service



posted on Nov, 28 2008 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by spacecowgirl
reply to post by Shugo
 


sponses:

responses:
1. The act of responding.
2. An answer or reply. Specifically: (a) Reply to an objection in formal disputation. I. Watts. (b) (Eccl.) The answer of the people or congregation to the priest or clergyman, in the litany and other parts of divine service


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