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Goodbye Internet - Hello Internet 2 - Free Speech is History, Hello Censorship!!

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posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 10:12 PM
The Internet as we know it, along with the greatest source of information known to mankind is at stake, and with that, our rights of free speech and as "free" nations.

In April 2007, Time magazine reported that researchers funded by the federal government want to shut down the internet and start over, citing the fact that at the moment there are loopholes in the system whereby users cannot be tracked and traced all the time. The projects echo moves we have previously reported on to clamp down on internet neutrality and even to designate a new form of the internet known as Internet 2.

Shutting down the internet ? re-creating it so it suites our government opressors even more ?

- A landmark November 2006 legal case on behalf of the Recording Industry Association of America and other global trade organizations sought to criminalize all Internet file sharing of any kind as copyright infringement, effectively shutting down the world wide web - and their argument was supported by the U.S. government.

- A landmark legal ruling in Sydney goes further than ever before in setting the trap door for the destruction of the Internet as we know it and the end of alternative news websites and blogs by creating the precedent that simply linking to other websites is breach of copyright and piracy.

This is what we are facing if we do nothing.

I'd really like to hear the thoughts of other ATS users, and any ideas you might have on how to fight this!!!

posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 10:20 PM
Here is a article regarding the EU calling for a new internet. They want it globally governed and want it completely RFID interactive. With this internet there will no longer be any anonimoty as they are wanting to be able to shut down anyone who speaks negatively of them or the global government.


posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 10:20 PM
That would suck. I can see it now, reminiscing about high speed internet on some pirate dial-up network BBS, and even that might be impossible with all the digital integration of the phone infrastructure, just aint the same good ol ma bell it used to be for sure...
Not to sound hopeless, but what can we do?
I have a strange feeling If it doesn't get achieved legally and with the peoples support, it will be achieved corporately and at the customers co$t. I bet if they offered free internet2, a lot of people would beg for it...

posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 10:25 PM
never gonna happen once you let it out of the cage you can never put it back in i think if they actually try to pull this sh@t there gonna find there empires crumble they havent noticed but there gonna pull that last straw pretty soon

we all know what there up to now and if they pull internet close down i think there gonna find out how many incredible talented hackers there trully are

then someone will start a new internet in seconds because there will always be a market for freeeeeddddddooooooooooooommmm

the government has little to no control over it now they just dont want to admit it the time for conroling it went away in about 1998

posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 10:26 PM
I know prisonplanet isn't the most trustworthy source of news available, but what they say here is true...

And if you want to know how the governments will go by censoring the internet, here is how...

Disaffected people living in the United States may develop radical ideologies and potentially violent skills over the Internet and that could present the next major U.S. security threat, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said on Monday.

"We now have a capability of someone to radicalize themselves over the Internet," Chertoff said on the sidelines of a meeting of International Association of the Chiefs of Police.

"They can train themselves over the Internet. They never have to necessarily go to the training camp or speak with anybody else and that diffusion of a combination of hatred and technical skills in things like bomb-making is a dangerous combination," Chertoff said. "Those are the kind of terrorists that we may not be able to detect with spies and satellites."

They will claim the internet is a terrorist tool, and by those means shut it down under the patriot ( terrorist act ) the U.S has made...

And other countries will follow suite very soon after!!

posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 10:36 PM
As individuals, there is little that can be done. If the NWO/PTB want this to come to fruition, it is likely that is all it will take.
Our hopes lie with the three, yahoo and hope that their intentions are just with the latest movements to unblock censorship in countries that already have this in place.

The tragedy of the situation is that any successful protest or outcry will wound the society that tries to wound the beast. If I2 replaces the current net with all of the trap'ntrace powers they want, then the solution of course is to drop off the grid. Stop all of your internet activity, disconnect your hardline and unsubscribe the service. Pull the battery out of your cell phone and drop it in a drawer the same day you drop your service. PDA, Garmin/TomTom, OnStar, LowJack, Satellite Radio, Dish/DirecTv/Cable...all Gone. The only way to strike back is to stop. Therein lies the double strike wound.
Will you suffer the sacrifice that it will take to strike back at the immorality of those that would see your freedoms stripped from you?

posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 10:40 PM
Here is another quote, this is from the EU

The latest move to kill off online freedom and the spread of information comes in the form of proposed EU legislation that would prevent users from uploading any form of video, whether that be a hard hitting political documentary film or your friends goofing around with diet coke and Mentos.

A proposed EU directive could extend broadcasting regulations to the internet, hitting popular video-sharing websites such as YouTube., reports the London Times.

This would mean that websites and mobile phone services that feature video images would have to conform to standards laid down in Brussels. Personal websites would have to be licensed as a “television-like service”.

Once again the reasoning behind such legislation is said to be in order to set minimum standards on areas such as hate speech and the protection of children.

Changes like that to the internet might not happen in the next 3 or 4 years, but look further, 5 - 10 years, and i see changes to the internet being made as mentioned above.

Yes, there will always be rogue hackers, computer geeks etc going up in arms and creating their own little internet.

But fact remains, the internet is going to change wether we like it or not..

unless we do something.

posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 10:44 PM
reply to post by wheresthetruth

I will!!

I have vowed to cancel my internet account if this censorship is implemented in Australia, there is no way I am paying for dumbed down dial up speed broadband monitored by the govt like im some nappy bound grown baby!

Can only hope many more will do the same to send the govt a message!

Screw that mate!

posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 10:55 PM
I certainly hope the Elite control freaks don't succeed in this venture. This topic has been on my radar since I read this article.

The plan is to convert the Internet into a cable-like system, where customers sign up for specific web sites, and then pay to visit sites beyond a cutoff point.

I get the feeling the shadow leaders are growing a little edgy over this system of free flowing information

posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 11:02 PM
reply to post by MacroVisio

Of course they are!

They know they are losing trillions of dollars by not corporatizing...sorry, privatizing the internet...

They will do it sooner or later..

What im hoping tho, that even if they do privatize the "current" internet, that all the elite guys out there band together to create their own private internet!

unless the government makes that illegal, which they obviousely will!

Aaargh it p1ssssisss me off!!

posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 11:40 PM
And as always, the lack of concern worries me alot...

Serious, how many of you think this won't happen ?

How many of you are willing to pay to go to websites, and pay to come onto ATS ? if a website such as ATS with it's sometimes controversial topics is still allowed on the new world wide controlled web ?

posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 12:03 AM
Well before anyone rolls over, we can at least let the powers that be know how we feel about internet censorship.


It seems Australia is the testing ground, if it happens here without a whimper, then there is no hope anywhere.

For details or addys to send off emails to reps go to here (ATSers from overseas should send off some emails too. Lets let the Oz government know that no one should interefere with OUR INTERNET which belongs to WORLD.

[edit on 30-10-2008 by Flighty]

[edit on 30-10-2008 by Flighty]

posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 01:31 AM
reply to post by wheresthetruth

I agree, I have always known that the internet has been a HUGE thorn in the sides of TPB. I too will cancel my internet subscription if this happens. In fact, I would have little use for a highly censored version of the internet. I can only hope that it does not happen. We need to fight tooth and nail to ensure that we never lose our beloved internet.

The internet is the greatest invention of our time. Access to free flowing, world wide information is something that past generations could only dream about. One day, if this initiative is successful, we will all look back and wonder if it indeed was, just a dream.

posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 01:40 AM

Originally posted by psychedeliack
I bet if they offered free internet2, a lot of people would beg for it...

You mean free like the FCC is auctioning off next year?

Of course, the FCC is "marketing" it as Smut Free

posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 11:24 PM
smut free internet who the hell wants that how quickly they turn on the thing that made the internet. Porno

i dont want no subscribed internet i dont use the internet for mainstream in fact the exact opposite

if they do that i will be the first one to not pay for there service and find werever the free net has gone

were are you gonna find the tech guys to shut the internet off what kinda tech would do that

posted on Nov, 5 2008 @ 11:28 PM
Er, Obama is for Net Neutrality. Which is the polar opposite of Internet 2.0. Now unless Obama wants to lose the youth and Tech vote. He's gonna keep that promise.

posted on Nov, 6 2008 @ 12:43 PM
reply to post by Alucard Hellsing

Have no fear, with mesh networking, 10 years from now the Internet will simply be a a mass of many many disparate networks.

Law will never be able to catch up with technology.. thank Goodness :-)

posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 05:03 AM
reply to post by Flighty

Yea, they used to test stuff on us in NZ, they stopped after Helen Clark (our last PM) told Bush where to stick it.
But seriously - the web of the future will be closed - I agree with some that the backlash will be INSANE!
If they close it down, I will probably just de-volve into the destructive child I was in my teens; this will result in gratuitous violence and destruction.

Hell! Maybe I'll just join a terrorist group! (mods, please don't censor me, I'm kidding... Sort of) - I would rather die in a hail of bullets than live in a world without my favorite source of interaction and entertainment

posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 06:03 AM
You realize the first internet, was people dialing up each others pc's?
It is so easy to make a wireless hotpot in your home.
People could make there own private networks huge in a matter of months from pc to pc relay.
They can never completely control the internet they simply cant do it.

posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 06:13 AM
Knock and the door will be open to you..... but there will come a time when you will knock and the door will not be opened.

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