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Army plans to seize 7 million acres in southeast Colorado

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posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 04:02 PM
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posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 04:39 PM
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From what I have heard there is a huge base beneath the Denver Airport base that goes down for miles and has many, many levels. They probably plan to link those tunnels with the new base...

I believe there many be ufos way down as well as remains of ufo aircraft. In fact I have heard there are huge tunnels beneath the earth connecting many continents and countries. I think the United STates has caves and tunnels beneath 1/3 of the inland states especially in Colorado, New Mexico, and utah.. Do a keyword search for underground military bases or underground tunnels and see what you find.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 04:59 PM
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Yes the Sand Dunes are just over the pass from me. I love it over there Zapata falls is in that area absolutely beautiful.

Why is it you say we should be watching the Sand Dunes? I know there is a lot of UFO activity over that way in the San Louis Valley. Most of the military convoys coming through this area are headed south to pinon canyon not anywhere near the Sand Dunes. Why what have you heard about the Sand Dunes?

We are use to the military playing here. My home is located within the La Veta MOA we have seen our fair share of strange activity we attribute to the military.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 05:12 PM
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Well that depends how far the Rabbit Hole you would like to go, and I must warn you about the first link I am going to post, it contains some truly gruesome information about DIA that could give you nightmares, but the area that seems to be of high interest to the findings related to DIA link up to Mt. Blanca which is in that area and Im not sure but I think that the Great Sand Dunes might have to do with this.

www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...
www.mt.net...
www.lapahie.com...



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 05:22 PM
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Well to better anwer your question, I must ask. Have you noticed anything strange reguarding the military build up, any strange military activity or facilities that you are aware of in the area?



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:14 PM
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Thanks for the links. I especially enjoyed the info relating to Navajo mythology.

I can't comment on the mural at DIA I have only been there once and was in a hurry we use Colorado Springs airport.

I can only say this is a strange place the locals talk of many things and then I read that first interview and it is creepy.

It's funny you mention Mt. Blanca one of North America's southern most glaciers sits atop that mountain there are many stories and legends about that mountain. I know some Hindu Indians come to a place near here and pour milk on the rocks in a certain location. At least I believe they are Hindu.

The only strangeness that occurs to me regarding that area is back in 1997 we saw some very strange things in the area of Mosca pass. It's not far from where I live it is the back way into the Sand Dunes. It is 4-wheel drive in so far then you have to hike in the rest of the way.

I really don't know what to say concerning that first link something to consider. This is indeed a strange area Tesla did some work out east I have read that HAARP had an underground facility somewhere in Colorado.

I feel something is going on underground here. We have suffered through bad droughts but never have local wells blown up neither have they all started going dry at once as some are deeper than others. There has been seismic activity south of me in the canyons. We've had the sudden die off of our pinons some easily 100 or more years old withstood all those years of extreme weather. We were told it was due to the drought and infestation.

I have a thread here at ATS I believe it was my first it was what brought me here. I saw an amber colored gyroscopic shaped beacon of sorts on top of Mt. Greenhorn in 1997. It should not have been there I have been on that mountain and there was nothing there at that time. I still see that mountain top every day and there is no light at the top of that mountain day or night. That was one of several things we saw that week. I can discount nothing.

Thanks so much for the links that first one was strange It talks of bloodlines although I was not raised here my father was and I live here now our family goes back to the very beginnings I am part Navajo. My fathers family held a very large land grant which extended into New Mexico. The info you provided is close to my roots and much appreciated. I have read the Aztecs referred to a land north they called "The Land of Color" possibly Colorado.

I hope I have not gotten too off topic there is something strange going on in Colorado and it is comforting to know some of you are watching.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:32 PM
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Some time during my research I began to think that Denver International Airport is doing something with NASA at that location. A While back I was looking into it and I found myself on a technical reports server and they were communicating only by using very technical terms and language. I was able to look up enough of the words and it seemed that they were doing some sort of weather technology. I was under the impression that they have a network of tubelike tunnel structures and they were doing expiriments with vibration and things like that. Basically this was around some time in 2006 and saw something that appeared to be related to a flood in Africa destroying over 600,000 homes.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:52 PM
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Right now some fields are feeding the fear that justify military buildup.

1) global warming is pushing some large population at risk (coastal mostly)
www.boston.com...

2) some strategic minerals are considered very scarced and could drive warmonging among major powers by populist leaders (left & right).
environment.newscientist.com...

3) some technological fields aren't yet regulated and present great risks for mankind (as well as great opportunities if handled with care):
artificial intelligence, genetic modification and nanotech especially.

4) some overpopulated area around the world risk endanger the elites, so creating transition cities to put them out of their envirronment would seem the least evil if they understand that the population around the world, even if passive..is highly likely to revolt through sabotage if they see coordination to eliminate a specific amount of people in a short period of time.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:19 PM
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Many European countries have built underground shelters for their citizens.
Here in the good ol USA we will be left to rad and rot out. We are useless eaters anyway. Maybe I could get a chef job up there. Or barber.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:58 PM
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you guys dont think this has anything to do with fema camps or fields of coffins or the civil war that we will be fighting soon do you...hmm...



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 10:14 PM
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I have stood on some railroad ties we have buried in the back yard and felt very faint vibrations. I don't have any kind of traffic around to explain it.

Our land is honeycombed with mine shafts we have to be careful how we drill wells so they are not sucking out of flooded mine shafts.

I know lately "they" have been real interested in mine vents and have been flying over them to check for methane. My husband met a couple that were hired to fly around with some kind of equipment checking mine vents from their helicopter. Go figure.

After the strange things we saw in Sept. of 1997 that Thanksgiving it snowed nonstop for 3 days we didn't get out for a week. The military came down to help dig us out and air-drop feed to cattle. After that we settled into a horrible drought even the grasshoppers died not one stink bug nothing crawled on the ground.

We were just recovering when this drilling thing started. We've had a good snow pack the reservoirs are full we've even had some good rains. I don't know why our wells would be going dry now. Many people's wells slowed down during the drought but recovered. Now they are going dry or are blowing up from methane.

Walsenburg is the nearest town for many of these people. During the drought the city took a hard line when it came to providing water to outlying areas via a city water source set up for ranchers/livestock. Cards were issued and strict guidelines set in place for amounts and usage. Many were refused cards. Now the city is accommodating all county residents who have been impacted by this mess with the drilling.

Do any of these people even know what the hell they are doing? Or scarier still they know exactly what they are doing.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 10:20 PM
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I think its much more mundane than people think.

Its very likely that this site will be intended in the near future to replace the Grafenwöhr-Vilseck, Hohenfels Training Area that is located in Germany. These are multiple installations that are massive training areas. In addition to that as more forces are pulled back to the states such as those in Germany and Italy they will need to be housed along with their families. This is something that really needs to be prepped for and I can easily see the pentagon doing this in Colorado, considering the environment, terrain, and climate compared to Germany.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 11:47 PM
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If I was loosing my little piece of land to this project I doubt that I would refer to it as "mundane."

Imho I do not think the majority of this land is intended for human habitation. Water as always is a real issue. I really cannot see a large family type military community springing up in that area. The expense would be vast. Fort Carson enjoys the amenities Colorado Springs provides in the way of schools, shopping, roads etc. They would have to build a city. Right now there is nothing there but rattlesnakes, antelope and cattle.

They want this land to blow things up and what's with the 5000 foot long air strip everyone is making a point of mentioning. Is that an unusual size? Maybe it's for bringing in all those German families to live in one of the most God forsaken areas next to death valley in the US. Sorry to those people who work and own that land they love it and this is only my opinion.

Still they have every right to hold on to what they know and love and the German families could easily be incorporated without seizing land. There are many ranching families who for whatever reason put up large tracks of land for sale. Likewise investors buy up huge tracts that could be made available to the military. I just don't understand the aggressive action and the unwillingness to compromise with local ranching families.

Seems to me they want this little corner of Colorado all to themselves and don't want the locals around watching. We've all gotten use to them overhead my house is targeted all the time and I've been in the sites of an Apache helicopter I could see the pilot looking at me.

Now that's not enough they want to use live fire. I seriously doubt they will have transplanted military families from Germany living under those conditions. While they play their games with the locals and the cattle they won't subject their own to the hazards or repercussions of their playing field.





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posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 12:13 AM
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Its not something I'm expecting overnight, so there will be time for construction. You have to consider that in the next decade or so that the forces we have in Italy and Germany may have to be brought back stateside. We have almost 60,000 personnel in Germany and almost 10,000 in Italy. Now double both those numbers and that would be good rough estimate of the number of family members and defense contractors that would be coming with them. Were talking over 200,000 people that need to be housed and based.

Now I dont object to the idea that somewhere in the middle of all of this a DoD spaceport is part of the design plan. With Projects like FALCON and SUSTAIN I am sure that DoD spaceports will start popping up in a number places quite soon, as in the next ten years, especially near combat forces they may be deploying.



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 07:54 AM
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If I could with all honesty believe you are right that this action is justified then imo I think these ranch families would feel likewise. These are not unpatriotic selfish Americans we are talking about. Imminent domain is not unheard of by these people they loose pieces of land to pipelines, mining operations, service roads, highways etc all the time. I'm sure some of these ranchers have previously dealt with the military back when pinon canyon was first established.

Obviously these normally very pro American people are objecting to what the government is trying to do maybe they know something we don't. I'm afraid I have to side with the ranchers on this one and believe me I have my share of issues with ranchers their cattle are an obnoxious pain in the butt. I just don't buy into the premise that the government always knows and does what's best. These people deserve consideration.

I mean come on I see the Dick Cheney's of government and then I look at these hard working simple people and well I just can't stay in line with the rest of the herd.



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 09:54 AM
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just because they want the land doesn't mean the army will get it within last couple of years navy wanted a chunk of land in eastern north carolina for an out of the way airfield the local population argued in court that it was a stupid idea because of all the geese and ducks that live in the area would play havoc with the superhornets they wanted to fly out of there and after several years of litigation the navy gave up.



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 09:34 PM
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This is totally new information, but I do thank you all for this info that I have never heard before. Especially some of the links from some of you were really cool. This comes as no surprise but I still think that this creepy. Oh well, this is what is supposed to happen. The end is near.

Teenager



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by Teenager
This is totally new information, but I do thank you all for this info that I have never heard before. Especially some of the links from some of you were really cool. This comes as no surprise but I still think that this creepy. Oh well, this is what is supposed to happen. The end is near.

Teenager


Actually this has been going on for a while now, it just has not recieved any attention on ATS or the national media until now. Thanks to the OP for finding and posting this article. This deserves a lot of attention. Denver, Colorado (DIA) is apparently supposed to become the western sector for the NWO.



posted on Nov, 4 2008 @ 07:29 AM
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Perhaps there is some kind of devastating cosmic event approaching and this location is best suited to survive the onslaught. A large asteroid striking the ocean could create a mile high tsunami that would sweep across the continents killing millions by the hour as foretold in the Third Fatima Secret!

Of course, such an event, if indeed forseen, could never be disclosed to the general public for fear of mass hysteria and panic it would generate!

Introducing "Global Terrorism" which any diligent researcher can quickly determine is the creation of western intelligence most likely as a cover to bring the masses in line without disclosing the real threat to the planet which is comsic in nature. Food for thought, anyway!!



posted on Nov, 4 2008 @ 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar
The other scary thing to me aside from being so huge is they plan on using it with foreign troops for exercises. I am very uncomfortable of having the largest military base in the world only to allow other armies on it...censored-news.blogspot.com

Just to rub a little truth into your fears. I was a Canadian soldier for a long time. We used your bases for training extensively. Oh, and you guys used ours, and the british used both, and the germans..... You get the picture. It's comon pratice to share training areas with other nations. It increases their exposure to different types of terrain etc,...

Nothing to be concerned about. Actually, I' be concerned if they didn't

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