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Mueller sought to synthesize Nazi ideology and Protestant tradition and to agitate for a "people's church" based on "good Aryan blood." This movement had gained 600,000 adherents by the mid-1930s.
Originally posted by Good Wolf
I'll take this opportunity to point out that most evolutionists are christians and most christians are evolutionists.
Originally posted by noobfun
everyone knows they arnt a True Christian™
Originally posted by Clearskies
I'll sincerely second that.
Homosexuality is forbidden in God's eyes.
Originally posted by Clearskies
The thing is, JESUS HELPS us to overcome evil, if we want Him to.
Originally posted by noobfun
reply to post by OldThinker
awww the quote games a dangerous game to play sometimes it bites you on the ass
This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief. The great masses of a nation are not composed of philosophers. For the masses of the people, especially faith is absolutely the only basis of a moral outlook on life.
- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 10
I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.
- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2
I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work.
- Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936
Originally posted by Clearskies
reply to post by noobfun
To be a Christian is to love all. Not white, not just some groups.
Jesus was a hebrew and He will come to His own racial Hebrew brothers, soon,
in a consummation like that of Joseph being revealed to his twelve brothers.
ANYONE who was brave enough to say NO to Hitler was persecuted, period.
The same way the Anti-christ will demand submission and kill all who defy him.
It's sad that so many Christians weren't strong or courageous enough to stand against the Nazi regime.
But, many Christians kept the Faith, like Corrie Ten Boom
disagreed with the nazis, sheltered Jews
and her Dad, sister and nephew died in the camps. Her brother died in jail.
Later, she forgave all the persecutors.
en as late as 1971, there are reports of the Communist oppression of Christianity. The Atheistic government has been reported engaging in sentencing Christians to mental hospitals to get rid of their "sickness" of having faith in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. "As the decades of Soviet rule passed, many Christians were sent to psychiatric hospitals because religion was categorized as mental illness". "'Special Psychiatric Hospitals' are known to exist in Kazan, Sychevka (Smolensk region), Leningrad, Cherniahovsk, Minsk, Dniepropetrovsk, Orel. It is very likely that they are also to be found in other regions. In many psychiatric hospitals special wards have been set aside for 'treatment' against dissidents of all complexions. The names of 60 victims of such 'treatment' have been published abroad. The Moscow Patriarchate, recognized by the atheistic government of the USSR, and kept under its control, maintains a stony silence".
Those who preached love and tolerance, “in contravention to the facts”, were said to be “slave” or “false” religions. The man who recognized these “truths”, Hitler continued, was said to be a “natural leader”, and those who denied it were said to be “natural slaves”. “Slaves” – especially intelligent ones, he claimed – were always attempting to hinder their masters by promoting false religious and political doctrines.
Though the "National Socialist leaders and dogmas were basically uncompromisingly antireligious" [45], the Nazi State primarily (but with exceptions) did not act officially in a directly anti-clerical manner except to those who refused to accommodate the new regime and yield to its power.
Originally posted by undo
what i have a problem with is using select examples out of a society to villify ALL MEMBERS OF A CERTAIN CLASSIFICATION.
Should we blame all the Russians for what Stalin did???
The Churches of Hitler were told what to preach and when to preach it.
No allowance for the loving Christ of the Bible.
stalin wanted to be the new jesus en.wikipedia.org...
began to implement a policy of explaining concisely and consistently that it is impermissible and foreign to the spirit of Marxism-Leninism to elevate one person, to transform him into a superman possessing supernatural characteristics, akin to those of a god. Such a man supposedly knows everything, sees everything, thinks for everyone, can do anything, is infallible in his behavior."
Originally posted by Clearskies
reply to post by noobfun
To be a Christian is to love all. Not white, not just some groups.,
But glory, and honor, and peace shall be to every one who worketh good, to the Jew first and also to the Gentile.
For there is no respect of persons with God. For as many as have sinned without the law, shall also perish without the law; and as many as have sinned under the law, shall be judged by the law. For not the hearers of the law are just with God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For when the Gentiles, who have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these not having the law, are a law to themselves; Who show the work of the law written upon their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts among themselves, accusing or even defending them, In the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Christ Jesus, according to my Gospel....................................
But he is a Jew, who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, not in the letter: whose praise is not from men, but from God.
What then? Are we better than they? In no wise: for we have before proved all, both Jews and Gentiles, to be under sin. As it is written, There is none righteous, no not one. There is none that understandeth; there is none that seeketh after God. They have all turned aside, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips. Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness; Their feet are swift to shed blood; Destruction and misery are their ways, And they have not known the way of peace, The fear of God is not before their eyes. Now we know that whatsoever the law saith, it saith to them that are under the law; that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world become guilty before God. Therefore no flesh shall be justified in his sight by the works of the law; for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God is manifested without the law, being attested by the law and the prophets, Even the righteousness of God, by the faith of Jesus Christ, to all and upon all that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and are fallen short of the glory of God, And are justified freely by his grace, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth a propitiation, through faith in his blood, for a demonstration of his righteousness, by the remission of past sins through the forbearance of God: For a demonstration, I say, of his righteousness in this present time, that he might be just, and yet the justifier of him that believeth in Jesus.
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? Nay, but by the law of faith. We conclude then, that a man is justified by faith, without the works of the law. Is God the God of the Jews only, and not also of the Gentiles? Surely of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God who will justify the circumcision by faith, and the uncircumcision through the same faith. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Originally posted by Clearskies
reply to post by noobfun
"For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth on Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Where have I ever said God hates gays????
Does He hate whores, drug addicts, thieves or people in cults?
He wants ALL to be saved.
quote]Originally posted by Clearskies
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy
Homosexuality is forbidden in God's eyes.
Just like adultery, or pre-marriage sex.
I had to get rid of boyfriends before I got married, just because they were too worldly.
Paul didn't advocate pride and racism. You know he was Hebrew?
yes to beleive that would take faith and a creator to perfom said miracle which is why its christian evolutionists that beleive this
It takes a lot of faith to believe in nothing, followed by 'a miracle', when water flowing over rocks, created the first amino acids.
hehehehe looking forward to it mate ^_^
Originally posted by OldThinker
its late here, I have not reviewed yet. ill be back soon enough and join the fray, ok?
Paul didn't advocate pride and racism. You know he was Hebrew?
he was one of jesus jews
he has a lot to say about the none jesus jews
"If, in fact, Paul was a full citizen of Tarsus, this would certainly mean that his father was one before him; and this would argue a certain degree of wealth, since full citizenship was granted only to people of some wealth and prominence. It would also, incidentally, make it unlikely that Paul's father was a Jew, since membership in the citizen body of a Greek "polis" involved membership of a native "phyla" or tribe and participation in pagan worship."
Act 21:39 But Paul said, I am a man [which am] a Jew of Tarsus, [a city] in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.
Act 21:40 And when he had given him licence, Paul stood on the stairs, and beckoned with the hand unto the people. And when there was made a great silence, he spake unto [them] in the Hebrew tongue, saying,Act 22:1 Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defence [which I make] now unto you.
Act 22:2 (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,)
Act 22:3 [and] taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and I am verily a man [which am] a Jew, born in Tarsus, [a city] in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel,was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.
He was born a Roman citizen of the Jewish dispersion.
Acts 22:25-28 And as they bound him with thongs, Paul said unto the centurion that stood by, Is it lawful for you to scourge a man that is a Roman, and uncondemned? When the centurion heard that, he went and told the chief captain, saying, Take heed what thou doest: for this man is a Roman. Then the chief captain came, and said unto him, Tell me, art thou a Roman? He said, Yea. And the chief captain answered, With a great sum obtained I this freedom. And Paul said, But I was free born.
Paul’s parents were Roman citizens. They must have had much money as they evidently bought their Roman citizenship.
Peter and the Apostles were on trial before the Sanhedrin:
Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men. For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought. After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed. And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
Originally posted by noobfun
reply to
was it just the high and mighties that are condemned for not bieng one of jesus jews ..... lets go read the bible some more
Acts 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. (everyone not a jesus jew should/shall be killed including jews)
Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Deu 18:19 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require [it] of him.
john1.
2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.(that would be everyone not a christian including jews then)
4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. (again thats everyone but christians)
5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.(everyone wicked but the jesus jews .... there seems to be a theme here ..)
John 2
1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.(again everyone not a christian is an antichrist and a liar woohoo)
so lets see the general trend here seems to be anoyone who doesnt beleive/accept jesus will die or should be killed and will burn in hell for all eternity
so lets see the list of people who accept jesus ......... christians ....and youve already condemned most of the worlds christians for bieng not real christians .... heavens gona be a lonley place.